Monday, November 26, 2012


Picasso had a sexual relationship with the gay French poet Max Jacob

Gay people are smarter on average

In three large population surveys (USA's AddHealth and GSS, UK's NCDS), Satoshi Kanazawa found a small positive correlation between higher IQ and self-reported homosexual behaviour or identity.

(Homosexuals Are Smart?)

We should not assume that all gay people are child abusers, or that all Italians are in the Mafia, or that all Jews are in the Kosher Nostra, or that all Africans are of low intelligence.

Africa has produced some of the most intelligent people on the planet. (List of African-American inventors and scientists)

Salma Hayek and Ashley Judd. According to an article entitled: Bigots are buggers : "Research by US psychologists suggests that 80% of men who are homophobic have secret homosexual feelings. The research results were published in the prestigious Journal of Abnormal Psychology, with the backing of the American Psychological Association."

People who are sexually attracted to children often make the best teachers and girl-guide leaders and often look after the waifs and strays that families have abandoned.

Jewish people are often involved in making useful scientific discoveries. (List of Jewish contributions to the world)

Famous Jews who have made life more interesting include: Jesus Christ, Benjamin Franklin, Felix Mendelssohn, Camille Pissarro, the Marx Brothers, Carl Sagan and Baruch Spinoza.

We should not be like the Nazis and see everything in black and white.

The world needs gay people, black people, Jewish people and even people who find children sexually attractive (so long as they are not child abusers).

Research by the advertising agencies has found that images of boys have a far wider appeal, for both men and women, than images of girls or women or men.

In the New Scientist, 27 October 2007 (Population is the key), Andrew Ferguson pointed out that:

1. World population is likely to be 10 billion by 2070.

2. Even if we adopt a simpler lifesyle, as for example in Cuba, the planet will not be able to cope.

3. For everyone to enjoy western European lifestyles, the world population needs to be about 2 billion.

To help save the planet, we need to demolish the last great taboo.

We need to stop forcing people to go in for relationships that lead to the production of babies. 

We need more people to be gay.

In Africa, Asia, the Americas and Europe, before the missionaries arrived, homosexuality was widespread.

The purpose of homosexuality, in evolution, may be to keep down the size of the population.

Francois Boucher

Joan Roughgarden is a professor of biology at Stanford University.

According to Roughgarden, gayness is something you necessarily find in advanced societies.

(Jonah Lehrer writing at Seed: The Gay Animal Kingdom)

Roughgarden argues that homosexuality is a defining feature of advanced animal communities, which require communal bonds in order to function.

"The more complex and sophisticated a social system is," she writes, "the more likely it is to have homosexuality intermixed with heterosexuality." 

Gay Moslem Art

Professor David P. Barash has written "The evolutionary mystery of homosexuality".

He writes of the paradox: that if homosexuality is a product of evolution, then "genetic factors associated with same-sex preference must enjoy some sort of reproductive advantage...

"Anything that diminishes, even slightly, the reproductive performance of any gene should (in evolutionary terms) be vigorously selected against...

"The consensus among scientists is that same-sex preference is rooted in our biology.

"Some of the evidence comes from the widespread distribution of homosexuality among animals in the wild...

Gustave Courbet

David Barash suggests some possibilities.

1. "Insofar as homosexuals have been freed from investing time and energy in their own reproduction, perhaps they are able to help their relatives rear offspring."

This could be "to the ultimate evolutionary benefit of any homosexuality-promoting genes present in those children...

"Some recent research has focused on male homosexuals among a more traditional population on Samoa.

"Known as fa'afafine, these men do not reproduce, are fully accepted into Samoan society in general and into their kin-based families in particular, and lavish attention upon their nieces and nephews - with whom they share, on average, 25 percent of their genes.

Fa'afafine. By jeantine

2. "There is some anthropological evidence that in pre-industrial societies homosexual men are more than randomly likely to become priests or shamans."

"Perhaps the additional social prestige conveyed to their heterosexual relatives might give a reproductive boost to those relatives, and thereby to any shared genes carrying a predisposition toward homosexuality."

3. "Groups containing homosexuals might have done better than groups composed entirely of straights.

"It has recently been argued, most cogently by the anthropologist Sarah B. Hrdy, that for much of human evolutionary history, child-rearing was not the province of parents (especially mothers) alone.

Relatives helped bring up children.

"If sufficient numbers of those assistants had been gay, their groups may have benefited disproportionately.

"Alternatively, if some human ancestors with a same-sex preference reproduced less (or even not at all), that, in itself, could have freed up resources for their straight relatives...

"Homosexuality might correlate with greater sociality and social cooperation; similarly, it might deter violent competition for females."

For the Buddhists, all visual attraction is the reaction of the lower self. Fleshly charm does not last and is in a sense unreal. In other words, you don't need a girl/boyfriend; and thegirl/boyfriend's sexiness is a bit of an illusion. However, according to the Buddhists, avoiding sex, while continuing to think foul thoughts, is not good. Better to obtain physical outlet, while thinking wholesome thoughts. (aangirfan: THOMAS MANN)

4. "One study has found that female relatives of gay men have more children than do those of straight men.

Continued here: The evolutionary mystery of homosexuality

David P. Barash, an evolutionary biologist, is a professor of psychology at the University of Washington. His most recent book is Homo Mysterious: Evolutionary Puzzles of Human Nature (Oxford University Press, 2012).

In the 1950s Nabokov wrote Lolita. Nabokov liked girls, so long as they looked like boys. Lolita was the girl with the ‘puerile hips’, the girl wearing ‘shorts’. Nabokov and Pale Fire and deception 

Alexander the Great



Charles Dickens 1812-1870



Paul Gauguin

Ernest Hemingway

Alexander Ivanov

Julius III - 'Pedophile Pope'

Rudyard Kipling

C S Lewis

Albert Goldman’s 'The Lives Of John Lennon' (1988) claimed that John Lennon had a gay affair with The Beatles' manager, Brian Epstein, during a four-day holiday in Barcelona in April 1963. (Cached) It also refers to a number of relationships which Lennon reportedly had with other men.Goldman claims that Lennon visited underage boy prostitutes in Thailand.

Anonymous said...

Great article as always, Aangirfan. 

Just one point of dissension: Jesus was NOT a jew, he was a JUDEAN - the native of a certain geographic location.

"jews" are NOT judeans. In Jeebus' times there were no "jews", there were pharisees. "jews" are a relatively new phenomenon dating not more back not earlier than about the 12th century, when they made their appearance in the European political context. In english I understand that the label dates to not earlier than the 16th century.

A question about homosexuals in your article: since obviously it is genetically determined and obviously homosexuals don't reproduce, then which are the "negative genetic traits" with which homosexuality correlates ? (I have a suspicion).

Dumb white people put the homophobic fundamentalists into power in Iran

Anonymous writes:


I am the gay oldest of four sibs.

Ive never been able to enjoy the happiness and security of marriage.

My three sisters have been helped by me in their childrearing for 20 yrs.

I must say all the love and joy I've recieved from the co-parenting has very much enriched my life, and I say with pride, the lives of my nephews and nieces.

They all love and respect me.

You know why? Because as a nonperverted, decent, moral gay person, I earned thier love and support.

Their will alwys be hateful people who try to morph the pedophiles and abusers with the moral, nonperverted gay, but the statistics on hetero males abusing daughters, sisters, and what not is staggering.

Not to in any way demean the pain and anguish the abused have suffered at the hands of the evil abusers who are gay, but satanic torture is about gaining demonic payback, not sexual pleasure.

The issues are far more complex than the average person knows.

You may have noticed that certain people are in need of a good education.

These are usually white people.

"White schoolchildren in Britain's poorest communities lag behind peers who are black or of Pakistani or Bangladeshi origin."

This is according to a Financial Times analysis of more than 3m sets of exam results.

"Poor white children even achieve worse average results than deprived pupils for whom English is a second language."

It is generally these 'poor whites' who write the 'ignorant' comments on blogs.

Lynching of an innocent black kid in the USA. Outside a courthouse in Omaha, Will Brown, after being killed, mutilated and burned. Brown was innocent of the crime of which he had been accused. Cached

In the UK, "Poor white children have fallen behind by the time they reach the age of seven... 

"In Hull, the worst-performing local authority area, a child eligible for free school meals, a widely used indicator of poverty, has a more than two-thirds chance of finishing in the bottom fifth of national exam results at the age of 16." 

Matthew Shepard was an American student who was tortured and murdered near Laramie, Wyoming in 1998. Shepard was targeted because he was gay.[1]A gay teenager was reportedly murdered by his uncle and father in Turkey because of his sexuality, according to Hurriyet Daily News.

Dumb whites tend to see things in simple black and white terms.

A study by Edinburgh University researchers found that childhood intelligence is linked to voting preferences and political involvement in adulthood.

British National Party voters, some of whom are fans of Hitler, had the lowest average intelligence - scoring just 98.4.

BNP voters have lowest IQ

The USA also has its poorly educated, fundamentalist whites.

People who give in to racism, and prejudice against people like gays, may simply be poorly educated.

Read the article.

"The research finds that children with low intelligence are more likely to hold prejudiced attitudes as adults." 

The research was led by Gordon Hodson, a psychologist at Brock University in Ontario. 

"Low-intelligence adults tend to gravitate toward racist and prejudiced political beliefs, the study found. 

Earlier studies have found links between low levels of education and higher levels of prejudice.

Website for this imageTHE REAL HITLER

Low intelligence in childhood corresponded with racism in adulthood. 

"There is reason to believe that strict right-wing ideology might appeal to those who have trouble grasping the complexity of the world."

According to Hodson: "Socially conservative ideologies tend to offer structure and order," something which appeals to people with low intelligence. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice."

In a study in the United States, Hodson and Busseri compared 254 people with the same amount of education but different levels of ability in abstract reasoning. 

They found that people who were poorer at abstract reasoning were more likely to exhibit prejudice against gays. 

(5 Myths About Gay People Debunked)

Brian Nosek, a social and cognitive psychologist at the University of Virginia, says: "I think that lower cognitive capacity can lead to multiple simple ways to represent the world, and one of those can be embodied in a right-wing ideology..."

"There may be cognitive limits in the ability to take the perspective of others, particularly foreigners," Hodson says.

"Much of the present research literature suggests that our prejudices are primarily emotional in origin rather than cognitive."


Anon said...

1. "Johnston/Yorks study 20007 said gays hate heteros because they envy their normality."

If you take a sample of 'out' promiscuous gays in London, you may find that they are 'disturbed'.

But, if you take the average gays, they are unlikely to envy heteros.

Most people are like the Bonobo chimps - bisexual.

2, "Psychologists claim intelligence ratings are top Asians, middle whites, bottom by a fair way black races."

I've been to Africa and met a number of supremely intelligent Black kids. But, they would perform badly in IQ tests. My score in an IQ test, aged 11, was 100 (very average). But a few months later my score was 140.

There are kids in poor schools in Glasgow who get low IQ scores, but, given good teaching in how to do 'middle-class-style' puzzles, many can quickly increase their scores by 20 or more points.

I have lived in Asia and met a number of kids who do well in tests.

But, I would not employ many of them, as they lack original thinking and creativity.

3. "Studies in perversion for the NHS 1982-4 say homosexuals are more likely to kill their partners, and have on average 30 partners year..."

There are heterosexuals who have 30 partners per year and I bet they are equally disturbed.

It is difficult to generalise about Gays as there are so many different types. Think of Shakespeare, Casanova, Napoleon, Mark Twain and Ronald Reagan who were all a bit gay, but not necessarily in the same way. The typical American gay is married (to someone of the opposite sex) and has kids.

Anon said...

Over-population is not a myth. I have been to villages in Asia where there is simply no room left. Most of the trees have disappeared. Most of the wild life has gone. And then there are the Asian cities which have expanded and expanded until they bump into the surrounding cities.

Anon said...

"Some experts say almost all molestation is gay in origin."

The 'experts' are often wrong.

Vast numbers of girls get molested.

Remember that social workers are frequently accused of being useless when it comes to protecting kids.

Anon said...



Anonymous said...

anony 1:27, ure so delusional.... Or this planet is a perpetual cow that can be mercilessly milked any time? So according to u, there should be no balance ever.... Well, world is in deep shit because of "ppl" like u, man, get outta here....

Anonymous said...

Always good to remind people not to generalize or paint any group as all black or all white.

Clearly, there are many gay people of both sexes who have nothing to do with child abuse and find it as abhorrent as any of us do.

Abusing kids IMO makes a person worthless to society and a threat to society. Any evolved society needs humane open honest ways of protecting its children from scum who hurt them for their own sick self gratification. In some cases execution after a fair trial makes sense for everyone.
Child abuse by men on girls is likely done by heterosexuals, while abuse of boys would likely be done by gays. The issue is the child abuse, not the orientation of the perp. Either way it is crime of the highest order.

Agreed on the overpopulation angle, WTF?

Anonymous said...

We don;t need them, they need us. They survive and thrive due to the human infrastructure provided by us. If they could show the people who allow them to flourish some respect then, we can talk. Gay men might possess some genius, but is it due to the vice? Gay women are not generally smart (except CAmille Paglia) nor are they "needed."

Anonymous said...

Sorry, but Jesus Christ it is not an human being. It is a character of a fictitious tale. It is a product of the collective unconscious of a political religious movement called "Christianity". Cheers.

Anon said...

Dear Peter,

Words mean different things to different people.

When I was in India, a Hindu friend referred to all Moslems as shit.

And a Moslem friend was not very keen on the Hindus.

At your children's home there would have been plenty of gay kids who were bullied and abused.

I have researched child abuse over a number of years and I have found that vast numbers of children are abused by heterosexuals.

We should not condemn all gay people because some are child abusers.

- Aangirfan

Anon said...

With reference to sodomy: it should be noted that many heterosexual people indulge in sodomy.

We are not promoting sodomy or the gay agenda.

We should remember that many of the children who have been abused over the centuries will have been gay; some will have been Jewish.

- Aangirfan

Dr. Armand Skagerakk Frederickshaven said...

Haha, you knew you were going to stir the nest with this one Aang.

Whereas I learned to disapprove of the Jews because of what I've learned about them, even so called 'truth seekers' tend to be as rigidly dogmatic as the republican party. Any old excuse to justify ones own personal bigotries will do.

Yes folks, gays have always existed, they were not conjured into existence by the Jews, most are not perverts, and there are many who can see the destructiveness of the gay agenda and will have no part of it.

And yes, lesbians generally lack intelligence and are thoroughly unnecessary ;)

Anonymous said...

I just read the coments and you lost the argument very badly aangirfan, yourfacts are badly selected.
I hope sometime some hulking great bloke with bling will come threaten you witha large burning cigar and rape your ass, like we had
PS heteros do not go for ass that gay sick and not good.
david first time blogger

Anonymous said...

Great article as always, Aangirfan. Just one point of dissension: Jesus was NOT a jew, he was a JUDEAN - the native of a certain geographic location.

"jews" are NOT judeans. In Jeebus' times there were no "jews", there were pharisees. "jews" are a relatively new phenomenon dating not more back not earlier than about the 12th century, when they made their appearance in the European political context. In english I understand that the label dates to not earlier than the 16th century.

A question about homosexuals in your article: since obviously it is genetically determined and obviously homosexuals don't reproduce, then which are the "negative genetic traits" with which homosexuality correlates ? (I have a suspicion).

Anonymous said...

peter Wilson

The psychiatrics hand bok which was the giude for clinical psychiatry thrugh the seventies
describes homosexuality asa perverion, which it is, only the rockefella agenda changed it to be the norm.
You need to do your homework aangirfan, you were way out on this one

Anonymous said...

From a description which I picked up somewhere: several adult men and women tie down a child and use some contraption to force his mouth open. Then the abusers take turns defecating into the mouth of the child.

a) Which is the sexual orientation of the abusers, based on the description of that abuse scene?
b) How is that kind of abuse related to sex/sexuality?

Zoompad said...

"We should not condemn all gay people because some are child abusers."

You are right, we shouldn't.

But here is the UK we have a Prime Minister who is so anti child abuse victim that his first response on looking at that list of Philip Schofields was to express concern that a witch hunt against homosexuals was being whipped up.

He was the only one to mention homosexuals on that program.

I have been falsely accused meny times of being homophobic. Yet when I was in the Jesus People (later turned into the Jesus Army shortly before I left) I was one of the few people in the church to stick up for one of the other people who left the church, a gay man, and so I really resent the false accusations that I am a bigot. Not off you Aang, but thats what I have been accused of many times, because of the stuff I have found out about the history of the Wonderland Club, NAMBLA, Stonewall and other organisations over the years.

I can tell the difference between gay people and aggressive organisations that have a nefarious agenda.

Anon said...

Aangirfan - Pageviews all time history 6,892,842.

In the USA, it is ranked #170,341,

In South Africa, it is ranked #12,933.

It is not so popular among UK Nazis?

Anonymous said...

"And yes, lesbians generally lack intelligence and are thoroughly unnecessary ;)"

U do have a problem, dude, and if u think ure smart or amusing, ure just wrong. or dumb. better a lesbian than with a monkey like u....

Anonymous said...

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS ARTICLE AAANG! I am the gay oldest of four sibs. Ive never been able to enjoy the happiness and security of marrage. My three sisters have been helped by me in their childrearing for 20 yrs. I must say all the love and joy Ive recieved from the co-parenting has very much enriched my life, and I say with pride, the lives of my nephews and nieces. They all love and respect me. You know why? Because as a nonperverted, decent, moral gay person, I earned thier love and support. Their will alwys be hateful people who try to morph the pedophles and abusers with the moral, nonperverted gay, but the statistics on hetero males abusing daughters, sisters, and what not is staggering. Not to in any way demean the pain and anguish the abused have suffered at the hands of the evil abusers who are gay, but satanic torture is about gaining demonic payback, not sexual pleasure. The issues are far more complex than the average person knows.

Paul said...

dave lambert

Your lack of basic literacy doesn't help your argument.

Anonymous said...

Hullo Aang, touchy topic huh?

As for homosexuality and evolution, I think you've grasped the wrong end of the stick, ha ha. In statistics, upon searching for a mean, the extreme ends of any given bell curve will be discarded. This is not any kind of, um... 'wilfulness', it's just how it's done. The extent of the exclusion is defined by way of a mathematical concept known as 'standard deviation' (yes, yes, good pun). Anyway, all data beyond 2.1 standard deviations from the norm is excluded. Always.

And there you have the function of homosexuality within evolution. Which is to say that not every aspect of human behaviour exists in order to contribute to evolution. Rather (and here's the crux): it cannot go against it. With gays comprising about 2% of a population they effectively fall outside of 2.1 standard deviations and what with being so far outside of the mainstream cannot go against evolution. Which is to say it is 'tolerated' because it is not a 'threat', so to speak.

The mistake is to confuse evolution's 'statistical toleration' of homosexuality with it being some kind of endorsement. It isn't.

The 'what if' follow-through logic makes this clear. What if homosexuality climbed to a point whereby it somehow surpassed normal reproductive sex with a concomitant drop in the birth rate/decline in the population? One way or another, evolution will not tolerate this. And yes, it's is so unlikely as to be ridiculous - but that's the point you see. Were that to happen the species would pass into the history books as a Darwinian 'fail'.

But clearly they don't do that and they never will. Or perhaps they have? Who knows? Perhaps there were populations that became majorly gay but you'd have to ask: where are they now?

Do you see?

You really can't argue with evolution. Says evolution: homosexuality can never have any kind of glorious future. It may have flourishes here and there but the immutable concrete reality of 2.1 deviations will always keep it in check. This is nothing to have an opinion about. It just is.


Anonymous said...


Evolution aside, otherwise I can see your point. The problem is not any given person's sexual orientation. The problem is taking it and wrapping it in an us-and-them mindset. I've met many gay men and women who were possessed of a truly unpleasant misanthropic bent. I recall sitting at a table of gay men who spent a repellently enthusiastic half an hour deriding babies and how filthy and evil they were. The hatred was almost visceral.

For gays to imagine that it's right or normal to spend all their time amongst other gays and to dream of some kind of 'gay heaven' where they need never encounter straight people ever again is an extremely bad idea.

Frankly I think your example of the fa'afafine is a brilliant one. And yet how far are we from that in the West? And whose fault is it? I've no doubt that gay people would blame straights but their reactionary solution is the worst possible response. Best I can make out, the gay community here seeks only to ever further remove itself from communality with the straight majority with ever narrower perversities (and sure, kids) being indulged in until people disappear up their own clackers. There's no future in that.

And between the truly evolutionary function of parents and grandparents wishing to see their offspring marry and reproduce as they did, and an evolutionarily tolerated minority seeking to swell their ranks with those self-same offspring, only one of them qualifies as an environmental depredation under the concrete reality of evolution. Can you dig it? And within evolution, environmental depredations must be dealt with. They must. This is the fundamental long and short of evolution. Without it there is nothing. Do you understand what I'm saying?

For mine this is the battle (of my own declaration) between the ensō and the taijitu. But that's enough for now.

Anyway, yours aye and best etc. etc.

Anonymous said...

Homosexuality and nature worship are part of the neo-pagan agenda being foisted upon the world by the international pagan cabal.

Why is their religion being taught in schools and proselytised by government and media? Governments have no mandate to impose any religious beliefs or practices.

People need to start seeing this as a religious belief, as heathen or pagan.

Anonymous said...

There is an interesting connection between Jews and homosexuals. The majority of the homosexual leaders are Jews. San Francisco is their sacred ground. Some really sick stuff happens in that city. By driving through that city I have seen homos having sex in the open near elementary schools. Ginsburg was one disgusting Jew that loved children.

Anonymous said...

@ Honk Bonk Man: You are right about San Francisco. I have been there twice and have seen things I thought would be impossible in a decent society.

Just google 'Up Your Alley Fair', San Francisco, 2008. You will find a site called 'zombie' or so. Just have a look at the pictures there. They were all taken on the streets of San Francisco.

What I can't understand is how gay people can whine about discrimination meanwhile behaving like this in the OPEN!!!

Anonymous said...

I am generally happy with the level of intelligence and compassion at this blog.
This thread is truly weird. The convoluted logic and mental gymnastics people are using to justify their homophobia is laughable, and a bit sad.

The child abuse topic here has rightly focused on sympathy for the victims and on the big picture of how child abuse in many ways is a means to an blackmail individual politicians and control governments.
Wars, austerity programs, and a slow steady drift to fascism are all enabled by politicians totally in the control of evil shadowy figures.

Getting hung up on homosexuality and its role in all of this is a waste of time. I wouldn't be surprised if the guy who runs this blog put up this 'we need gay people' post to remind his viewers that some of their homophobic rants are not accurate, kind or relevant. The push back from some of you people on this shows that you have a lot to learn about life.
I guess it would make sense that the most extreme positions here, the Jesus nut who hates queers and the evolutionary zealot who uses his superior intellect to hate queers....are reflective of the views that our propaganda merchants want us to have. The rest of us in the middle understand the big picture and are quite capable of seeing good (if it is there) in our fellow human beings. I have had many great friends in my life, some lesbians, some gay guys, most straight people. My gay friends would simply have hurt feelings and react with sadness reading some of the vile puke in the comments here. I like to think they are from greasy trolls rather than real people.

Anonymous said...

No evolutionary zealot, me. I am the precise antithesis of a social darwinist. Perhaps I can distil what I was saying to a single phrase: "homosexuals are no threat to anyone - they're fine".

For the record I spent about ten years living and working in Sydney's Oxford Street. You may have heard of it. I know a lot of gay people. I have no doubt that they would all view me as a lovely chap. No really.

My single point re evolution was that it's a mistake to imagine that every aspect of human behaviour exists in order to serve evolution. Between the two propositions of 'it must serve some purpose' and 'some things just are', I opt for the latter.

I happen to be nutty for the solitary occupations of crosswords and bird watching. Doubtless I could make a case of their function within evolution but really that would say more about me and my preoccupations than it would about evolution. Some things just are.

It's been the story of my life that in choosing the middle way, ie. picking at fallacies in both sides of an argument, that I am seen as an extremist opposition to whosever argument it is that I am unpicking at the time. Truth is, I am not in opposition. Rather I am opposed to the concept of opposition, ie. that held by the person I'm talking to. Can you dig it?

Thus, if I said that gay people were every bit as capable of opting for a counter-productive, reactionary, us-and-them mindset as everybody else would I be wrong? Are gay people, unlike everybody else, beyond criticism? Is someone who discusses gay people as something other than heroes or victims a villain? What about someone who discusses the mindset?

In no way do these questions qualify as support for the persecution of gay people. To think so is to fall into the trap of us-and-them. I am not that. Gays are my brothers and sisters. Their differences are nothing. My point is - anyone who fixates on those differences, whether straight or gay, might want to wonder at themselves.

Anonymous said...

Yes, we need more gays, like Henry Kissinger, George Bush, Tony Blair, Sir Anthony Blunt, Tom Driberg, Lord Boothby, Jonathan King, Peter Mandelson, Ronnie Kray...oh, hang on...

Anonymous said...

The title of this article represents part of the problem as does some of the conflating content: However it is very good starting debate point.

There will be a percentage of people in a population who are homosexual, and its biological function is likely to be connected with population control. It could be regarded as similar to checks in other species which see bias towards one sex over the over depending on population densities and environmental conditions: Certain aquatic species are well studied.

In human society, homophobia is a product of a tribalist instinct, the same instinct which leads to racism and other irrational discrimination. The modern labels for the effects cloud this in most peoples minds: The key is the irrationality of the fear which drives the reaction in the people.

Homosexuality has been exploited as a division tool by propagandists, as has racial, class and other divisions for various ends. Even Prime Minister Cameron fell fowl of a rather nasty propaganda item which is stuck in most peoples minds on live television - that being the 'link' between homosexuality and predatory paedophilia. This type of propaganda once started is very difficult to correct. This primarily originated in western Europe.

One thing which is overlooked is how some of the major religions such as Hinduism and Buddhism reflect on the issue of sexuality. The Hindu Gods and teachings reflect a very androgenous picture, Buddhism divorces the spirit from the corporeal form making sexuality a non issue.

Pre-Christian European religions and societies were similar. This is not an attack on Christianity, but that appears to be a key point where the promoted notion of homosexuality being less than desirable started, and likely for strong sociological reasons at the time.

In the UK, the laws passed banning homosexuality during the reign of Victoria show an interesting mix of prejudices which highlite clearly the irrational aspect. For men this was made illegal, but women not - mainly on the incorrect assumption at the time that females did not engage in homosexual activity.

The current attempt to stamp homophobia out of society is a wrong approach as it serves only to promote the division which reinforces the root cause driver. The notion of 'needing more gays' is similarly flawed as gender orientation is not something which can be switched on and off, and the desire to nurture or create life in ones image is hardwired into all.

The desire for gay couples to adopt and have surrogate children is evidence of this.

As a means of population control, homosexuality is not a real solution with today's technology available.

For a more natural and equal society though, irrational discrimination of homosexuals is not desirable.

The Realist Report said...

I'm still trying to figure out why you haven't published my original comment? Did it go to spam?

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