Thursday, November 01, 2012


General Carter Ham.

Reportedly, U.S. General Carter Ham was arrested for activating special forces teams to help Ambassador Stevens in Libya, thus ignoring a stand-down order.

On 18 October 2012, US Defence Secretary Panetta said, "Today I am very pleased to announce that President Obama will nominate General David Rodriguez to succeed General Carter Ham as commander of U.S. Africa Command.”

Has General Ham Been Fired? American Thinker (blog)-27 Oct 2012 / TRR: Is a General losing his job over Benghazi? Washington Times (blog)/ General Ham Refutes President Obama And Leon Panetta 

Who controls Panetta?

Rogue” U.S. General Arrested for Activating Special Forces Team

M. Frank Drover
The Daily Sheeple
October 28th, 2012

Whistle blowers throughout the U.S. government, including within the White House, the State Department, national intelligence agencies and the U.S.military have made available stunning details that suggest not only did operational commanders have live visual and audio communications from drones overhead and intelligence assets on the ground, but that some commanders within the military were prepared to go-it-alone after being told to “stand down.”

Africom commanding officer U.S. General Carter Ham, after being ordered to essentially surrender control of the situation to alleged Al Queda terrorists and let Americans on the ground die, made the unilateral decision to ignore orders from the Secretary of Defense and activated special operations teams at his disposal for immediate deployment to the area.

According to reports, once the General went rogue he was arrested within minutes by his second in command and relieved of duty.
“(The) basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on; without having some real-time information about what’s taking place,” Panetta told Pentagon reporters. “And as a result of not having that kind of information, the commander who was on the ground in that area, Gen. Ham, Gen. Dempsey and I felt very strongly that we could not put forces at risk in that situation.”
The information I heard today was that General Ham as head of Africom received the same e-mails the White House received requesting help/support as the attack was taking place. General Ham immediately had a rapid response unit ready and communicated to the Pentagon that he had a unit ready.
General Ham then received the order to stand down. His response was to screw it, he was going to help anyhow. Within 30 seconds to a minute after making the move to respond, his second in command apprehended General Ham and told him that he was now relieved of his command.
A General who made the decision to assist diplomatic and intelligence assets on the ground has been arrested and will likely be retired or worse, while those who ordered the removal of embassy security details and ordered U.S. forces to stand-down are left to go on about their business and likely risk more American lives in the future.

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Siderno is home to one of the 'Ndrangheta's biggest and most important clans, the Commisso 'ndrina, heavily involved in the global cocaine business and money laundering. [6] 

The parents of CIA boss Leon Panetta, Carmelo Frank Panetta and Carmelina Prochilo, both come from Siderno.

Why Is President Obama Sending 12, 000 U.S. Troops To Libya?

Intercept at The Intercept

"12,000 U.S. troops stationed in Malta are about to make their descent into Libya...

"Now, from Libya, reports are that even while the Misrata rebels (NATO allies responsible for the murder of hundreds of Libyans, including Moatessem Qaddafi) attempted to scale the petroleum platforms in Brega (an important oil town in Libya), they were annihilated by the Apache helicopters of their own NATO allies. 

"A resistance Libyan doctor-become-journalist reported yesterday that all of the petroleum platforms are occupied by NATO and that warships occupy Libya's ports."

The Benghazi attack gives Obama an excuse to put more troops into Africa.

'Benghazi attack was 'convenient' for the US' – security expert

Retired Four-Star Admiral James Lyons has suggested the attack on the American Consulate in Benghazi  was the result of a bungled kidnapping attempt.
Admiral James Lyons suggests the Obama administration deliberately lessened the levels of security at the consulate.

In October 2012, the Western Center for Journalism suggested the killing of Ambassador Chris Stevens was the result of a failed kidnapping attempt by terrorists working for the US government.

What went wrong with the Obama plan was that, according to information obtained by Fox News, Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty, both former U.S. Navy Seals, ignored orders to "stand down" and fought vigorously for hours in their attempt to defend the compound.


On October 20, Kris Zane published the center's initial article Muslim Brotherhood Behind Benghazi Attack with Link to Obama.

Within 24 hours of the event, ground intelligence linked the Benghazi attack to Mohammed Morsi, the Muslim Brotherhood president of Egypt, who was put into power by the CIA. 

Zane cites an anonymous source inside the White House who says that Obama planned to win the release of a kidnapped Stevens, just in time for Election Day.

The work of Ansar al-Sharia. who-are-ansar-al-sharia. On September 11, 2012, the United States Department of State Operations Center advised the White House Situation Room and other U.S. security units that Ansar al-Sharia was claiming responsibility for the attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi that had just occurred.[11] 

On October 25, Kris Zane published his second article on the incident “Obama Linked to Benghazi Attack.”

On 24 September 2012, the Wall Street Journal had published an article from Judge Michael Mukasey entitled “Will Obama Free the Blind Sheik and send him back to Egypt?

Omar Abdel Rahman was jailed for his part in the CIA's 1993 World Trade Center Bombing and for conspiring to assassinate Hosni Mubarak, who had become an enemy of the CIA.


dognamedblue said...

another top brass has just been removed from his carrier in the straights of hormuz

I wonder what's going on? time will tell

Anonymous said...

dognamedblue: do you think the top brass are doing what we alternative peeps have been praying for? Resisting the commands of our psychopathic politicians?

Interesting in the context of some major lawsuits against banksters and the IRS.

dognamedblue said...

the cnbc exec had his kids killed after going with the $43 trillion bank lawsuit story, although the nanny "who did it" then killed herself by slitting her own throat

seems those that stand in the way are sorted out one way or another

Noor al Haqiqa said...

This calls to mind the men who were told to "stand down" during the Israeli attack of the USS Liberty. As we know the Liberty was not meant to survive but somehow these brave men managed to limp to shore in their destroyed ship.

This took place many years ago and, in my naivete, I remember being shocked over that denial to help fellow Americans under attack.

Now? Not so much shocked. Obviously there was a planned agenda to sacrifice the Ambassador for some reason or another. Lie after lie after lie ....

Until we know the TRUTH about what is really taking place in Libya, chances are we won't know about this General either.

The fact that he was told to step down within a minute tells me someone had his number and his refusal to step down had already been considered beforehand.

Considering this removal is going on in several places, methinks the men with the brass to stand up to the psychopaths are being picked off one at a time.

Dear Lord have mercy on the people of Libya.

Anonymous said...

There must be a few good people at the top, or even some partially dirty ones who have had enough of the criminal orders from the political psychos.
Good observations you guys.

The film 'Sir no Sir' is a good doc that looks at the Vietnam era protests and why that war ended.
The significance of that film was magnified after reading the McGowan stuff on Laurel Canyon.
Yeah, the entire hippie movement was a CIA show designed to get middle America to loathe hippies and in a reactionary fashion, support the war.

The Sir no Sir film basically says the hippie protests accomplished nothing, without explaining it like McGowan does. But the film claims that resistance of actual military personnel got the job done. The war was untenable cause too many guys were shooting gung ho soldiers and commanders, orders were being disobeyed, guys wouldn't get out of bed and everyone who could get high did.

Some sort of critical mass of military people going rogue is a dream for the good people and the ultimate nightmare for the pigs.
There is probably already a model for that kind of scenario at DARPA or wherever, factoring time, public reaction, media control etc. all leading to a day when drones for every situation will solve their problem.

Looking for a few good men...

PS The trillion dollar lawsuit against bankster scum is being handled by a disgraced dodgy lawyer who may be in on the game. The fact that Alex Jones broke the story sure doesn't do much for me.
Over at Twelfth Bough, A Peasant uses the legal term "inoculation" to describe a self destructing lawsuit, the purpose of which is to shield a company from a good one.

Anonymous said...

the comments are also worth reading.

Anonymous said...

Yes Noor, and also the people of Lebanon and Iran etc etc.

re-reading history, I now understand the evil, conscience-less perpetrators of murder have eternally killed their own 'kin'.

Jesus might have been crucified two thousand years ago, but really, the theme of crucifixion is ongoing on a daily basis amongst us all.


Anonymous said...

Nothing to see here, people. This is just Caligula-style politics in a crumbling empire!

Anonymous said...

TY for your comments Anonymous @ 8.36

I will endeavour to dig up the film you recommend, which reminded me of The Men WHo Stare at Goats.

Having had considerable experience in western military systems, I almost died laughing at the tragedy that our west has become. Very black laughter, I might add, since the tears also rolled down my face.

And that reminds me Aangirfan; your list of actors who are not what they claim to be, contained Jeff Bridges.

Once again, I was shocked, as I love him as an actor, and believed him to be true to his wife of 39 or so years.
My Inner Pollyanna is not wanting to die.

While I did read that same legal info at Twelfth Bough, I nevertheless hope and pray that the case gains traction from the attention and energy of good people. The case against the IRS is in Maine, and I pray for the good people there also;
only God knows what might emerge from the case of those children and nanny stabbed in a NY bathroom.

Bone chilling stuff really.
Thanks to all concerned for this conversation.

Anonymous said...

dognamedblue said...

I didn't realise that alex jones broke the story, the intercept is usually a good source, but will bear this in mind for any future stories they have

Anonymous said...

No general who willingly participated in the aggressive destruction of Libya deserves any sympathy. Same goes for the attack and killing of the CIA overthrow-backing goons at Benghazi. It is almost funny that they are killing each other off and seizing control of situations for power plays. No loyalty among the top brass, for sure. If only they would devise a way to eliminate the top worst ones. I wonder if the subordinant who arrested the general is a Jew, as well as a loyal, Obamanaut, military roboton.

Anonymous said...

Rogue officers? Let me see. Yanks alternate between zombie like blind faith in government and complete lack of trust in same government. I believe a cover story. A two pronged operation to introduce boots on ground and isolate potential trouble makers in general population (good or bad) as targets. Or officers going crazier than President.

Anonymous said...

Many of the senior brass know that the US is now effectively an occupied nation.

They know Mossad was behind 9/11, they know that the Presidency, Congress, media, Hollywood, Federal Reserve and judicial system are all Israeli controlled.

They also know that the Iraq and Afghanistan wars did not serve US interests.

The only question now is - when will they refuse orders?

The Israeli's are playing this as an all or nothing game and would happily start WW3 if they felt they were going to lose control of events.

Anonymous said...

The hippie movement was Kosher. I have met some of those creatures. So much for peace and love. Alternative society! Right? The JewishFulDead gang live in million dollars mansions.

Anonymous said...

seeing mention of Leo Abse when he died aged 91 the policeman who caught him most times in public tiolets soliting for sex with males
attended the funeral, he said thathe felt he knew the man as he had arrested him so many times and each time it was blocked from above. Leo Abse was one of the main Rothschild lawyers along with Lord Goodman, thereason switzerland was neutral in W W II was that rothschild had his banking base there and wanted it left untouched according to leo abse, who also BTW aways said the bolocaust was a hollywood scripted

WWS said...

"Many of the senior brass know that the US is now effectively an occupied nation. ... The only question now is - when will they refuse orders."

The flag ranks are corrupt. Most military coups are controlled by field grade folks.

Question is: Are there any, or enough, willing to do the job?

Anonymous said...

Glenn Beck is strongly suggesting Obama be impeached and imprisoned for treason, for crimes against his own people, viz Ambassador Stephens and co. Please God, send in courageous lawyers to confront the gross injustices and lies of our current regimes, especially their puppet masters.

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