Tuesday, May 03, 2011


Did the Pakistan military get too close to a CIA safe house?

Did the Pakistan security services get involved in a fight at the CIA safe house and then discover CIA operatives (or members of bin Laden's family) being housed there?

Did the US military then arrive on the scene to remove the evidence and concoct a story to cover its involvement with al Qaeda?

Former Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf's 2004 autobiography talks about an Al Qaeda (CIA) safe house in Abbottabad. (Musharraf knew of Abbottabad safe house?)

An ISI official told the BBC the compound in Abbottabad where Bin Laden was allegedly killed had been raided in 2003. (Bunny Laden.)

Pakistan’s spy service (ISI) had been sharing information about the Abbottabad compound with the CIA since 2009 and had continued to do so until mid-April. ( Pakistan 'shared information about compound ...‎)

A Cobra helicopter belonging to the pakistan military

According to Pakistani Urdu TV channel Geo News (killed in Abbotabad near Islamabad of Pakistan):

Pakistani intelligence officials said that a Pakistani army helicopter was shot down in Abbottabad and then a search operation was launched by Pakistani forces.

At about 1:20 a.m. local time a Pakistani helicopter was shot down by unknown people in the Sikandarabad area of Abbottabad.

The Pakistani forces launched a search operation in the nearby area and encountered a group of unknown armed people.

An exchange of fire followed between the two sides.

When the exchange of fire ended, the Pakistani forces arrested some Arab women and children as well some other armed people.

Two U.S. helicopters flew to the site and carried away a dead body

Initial reports said that at least one was killed and two others were injured in the crash.

At least two houses were engulfed by the huge fire caused by the crashed chopper.


"The CIA's Larry Mitchell met Osama in an American hospital in 2001"


"U.S. officials have said that Pakistani officials were not told about the early morning helicopter raid until the strike team had killed Bin Laden and had returned to Afghanistan from where they took off, citing security reasons.

"Many Pakistanis were surprised at how this was possible, especially when initial reports stated that the choppers took off from a Pakistani air base." (Bunny Laden.)


"I used to go to their house. He had two wives, one spoke Arabic, and the other one spoke Urdu. They had three children, a girl and two boys. They gave me two rabbits."

Bunny Laden.


U.S. officials have listed a number of points that they claim prove the dead man is Osama bin Laden:

DNA taken from 'the brain of Osama bin Laden's sister following her death from brain cancer' was a 99.9 per cent match to that of Osama.

A woman, 'believed to be one of bin Laden's wives', confirmed bin Laden was the dead man.

The CIA said they compared photos of bin Laden's body with known photos of him and were 95 per cent sure that they showed the same man.

The burial from an aircraft carrier in the North Arabian Sea was videotaped aboard the ship, according to a senior defence official.

All sounds like a lot of CIA lies?



A Pakistani police officer says the mansion was owned by an Afghan national called Arshad Khan.

He added: "There were several members of the bin Laden family inside the compound who have been taken into custody.

"One of them was his daughter Safia." (Osama bin Laden: Neighbours shocked to be living next to world's ...)

"Unidentified males who survived were flown from the scene, while four children and two women, including Bin Laden’s daughter Safia, were taken away in an ambulance.

"It is believed his youngest wife Amal al-Sadah was also taken into custody."


According to Hamid Mir, 3 May 2011 (The Osama bin Laden I knew):

Osama "was hiding in Abbottabad with one of his wives, a son and a daughter...

"His 10-year-old daughter Safia watched American commandos entering the house, who took away the dead body of her father.

"She confirmed later: 'The Americans dragged the dead body of my father through the stairs'."

Hamid Mir is spouting CIA propaganda?

A scene from the film Blackhawkdown


"His youngest wife, Amal al-Sadeh, 27, with whom he reportedly had a number of children, was shot in the leg during yesterday's attack.

"The al Qaeda chief's beloved youngest son, Hamza, 18, and another son, 22-year-old Khalid, were also said to have been killed." (The loyal sons of Osama Bin Laden - and the many relatives who ...)


"White House counterterrorism adviser John Brennan told reporters Monday that bin Laden's son Khalid was killed in the raid.

"When the White House released a transcript of Brennan's briefing, it substituted the name of a different son, Hamza...

"Brennan said bin Laden's wife died while shielding the terrorist leader from U.S. gunfire.

"Carney said Tuesday that the wife hadn't died and was merely shot in the leg, although another woman did die. But it wasn't clear that either of them was trying to shield bin Laden.

"Brennan and other officials suggested that bin Laden was holding a gun and even firing at U.S. forces. Carney said Tuesday that bin Laden was unarmed." (White House Struggles to Get Story Right )


ABBOTTABAD: 25Jun2008 A Pakistani drug addict smokes heroin in Abbottabad on the eve of International anti Narcotics Day. PHOTO by Sultan Dogar
A Pakistani drug addict smokes heroin in Abbottabad on the eve of International anti Narcotics Day. PHOTO by Sultan Dogar www.flickr.com/photos/sultandogar / Abbottabad Press Club

It was Pakistan forces who attacked the compound in Abbotabad.

It was Pakistan forces who took away the captives.

On 4 May 2011, The UK Daily Telegraph's Peter Oborne has an excellent report on what happened at Abbottabad. (The mysterious Khan family.)

Peter Oborne reports:

Mohammed Qasim is a farmer’s boy who lives right next to the compound in Abbottabad.

A special forces helicopter landed in the field just behind his house.

Masked men emerged.

Mohammed Qasim said they spoke fluent Pashtu, a language of Pakistan.

He heard them 'smash their way into' the compound.

Twenty minutes later, he heard the helicopters depart with their captives.

Mohammed Qasim's father was seized by soldiers during the raid.

(The mysterious Khan family.)

According to Mohammed Qasim, two families had been living in the compound.

They were headed by Arshad Khan, 'in his forties', and his young brother Tariq.

They spoke perfect Pashtu (a language of Pakistan)

Mohammed Qasim said the Khans had eight or nine children, including Abdur Rahman and Khalid, both six or seven years old; two or three women lived in the house.

These children also spoke Pashtu.

Every morning the mothers and their children would leave the house a Suzuki van.

Mohammed Qasim insisted that he never saw Osama bin Laden.

He said: "I don't believe he was there."

Peter Osborne could see "practically no signs of a fight" when he arrived at the Khan’s family house.

"No bullet marks punctured the walls."



Anonymous said...

I believe Pervez Musharraf's words as far as Abbottabad is concerned. Great find! See how everything connects now?

Anon said...

Dear Entity,

We see more pieces of the jigsaw.

Many thanks for all your links.

Do you have a blog?

- Aangirfan

Anonymous said...

Clearly those bunny rabbits are rigged with micro nukes that could go off at any time.

Man that kid is craaaazy!

me said...

i'm not sure

Anonymous said...

Ure welcome, Aang. No, I dont have a blog. I dont have the time for it, plus that everybody would hate me for my conceptions, lol. U noticed that when I argue with some posters here too :). I'm actually the person named C. but I made a Google account because, suddenly, the "Anonymous" poster option didnt work anymore on this blog (at least for me).

Anonymous said...

Obviously, the kid is talking about an imposter or he was instructed what to say. Children are easy to manipulate after all, isnt it?

Anonymous said...




Anonymous said...

'We Got Him' - The Movie (by Icke)

Scene from 'We Got Him' - The Movie, a sequel to Wag the Dog.
Scene One: President in ratings nose-dive after doing everything he said he wouldn't do and nothing that he said he would. Pakistan is on the wish-list of countries to invade and subdue leading directly to the border with China - the target, with Russia, for a Third World War. Public support for ever more wars, like the latest in Libya, is waning. Others are planned so support must generated for them.
Scene Two: Man wrongly blamed for 9/11, who died years before anyway, becomes the manufactured villain in a staged drama in which John Wayne extras have a shoot out in a compound in Pakistan, thus providing further ammunition to demonise that country for 'protecting Bin Laden'.
Scene Three: The lying and ludicrous President is suddenly an overnight hero (for doing nothing) and enjoys standing ovations when he enters a room. He condemns Pakistan (obligatory) which then apologises for 'security failures' hoping this will mitigate the military backlash in the wake of them telling the United States to stop drone-bombing their country and killing their civilians.
Scene Four: Grotesque, beyond grotesqueness - the hero President heads for Ground Zero in New York to exploit the families who lost loved ones on 9/11 to further promote himself, his popularity and poll ratings as he prepares for another run for President.
Scene Five: With new found support triggered in the John Wayne DNA of many Americans the President orders assaults on other countries while he heroically sits in the White House thousands of miles from the men, women and children this man and his beyond evil masters are ordering to be killed.
There was another scene in which the brave men in uniform paraded their 'prize' in full view to prove that what they said they have done they actually did. But, no. This was dropped in favour of dumping the 'body' into the sea. Saves the cost of hiring a corpse.
(Mind you, we do have that guy still on ice, right? Perfect.)

Penny said...

veritas had a video up of a man, an adult interview, a neighbour for years and years who said he didn't believe that OBL was in the house.

If the house was a safe house of some sorts, for the CIA/Alquaeda operatives then some parts of the ISI and the Paksitan army are likely infiltrated already. (By western interests there was news of India being involved..)
Think of Egypt or the Chilean military under Allende but funded by the US enabling the coup by Pinochet.

Infiltration is not such a stretch given the history of cooperation between Pakistan and the US

All that said, I still hold the opinion that OBl was not present at the house.
Someone may have been killed or not?
But, not OBL

CS said...

In many ways, the OBL hit story parallels the birth certificate story. Lots of obvious problems, leading to rumors, speculation, argument, clarification, correction, wholesale revision and, eventually, public exhaustion, when most folks give up trying to follow the story and accept that they simply don't understand what's going on and must place their trust in the President -- precisely the state of mind they are supposed to be in.

Anonymous said...

An ex-official of the PAF said that he is not ready to digest that due to a foreign aircraft’s intrusion, the jamming of radars or communication systems for such a long time is technically possible. The flight from Bagram airbase to Abbottabad takes 1:10 hours and equally 1:10 hours back, added to the 40-minute operation near the Kakul Military Academy with supposed 10/10 minutes prior to and post jamming; this is more 3:40 hours of a total blackout of communication. The air route from Jalalabad to Abbottabad lies on the Peshawar, Mardan-Risalpur, Ghazi Barotha line where the Peshawar International Airport’s radar system, along with the PAF’s multiple systems and other systems are interlinked to support each other, simultaneously work and indicate within seconds if any kind of failure, halt or fault occurs. The ever-alert technicians, watching round the clock, routinely report on hotlines and, in case of failures, through cables, to senior authorities within no time.

Another aspect is the fact that the route from Jalalabad to Abbottabad lies on the international and local air route; any kind of communication blackout may cause fatal air accidents, which is unimaginable. The CIA chief’s claim that the operation was kept secret because they did not trust us is a slap on our face, but his claim does not seem true because Obama and Hillary have publicly admitted that this operation was executed successfully with Pakistan’s help. This is a matter of satisfaction that if technically it is not possible, then it means the question of capability and capacity of our security apparatus cannot be raised. One finds a reason behind not publicly owning the killing of Osama, but the media must be aware of the fact that the vulnerabilities of the country should not be highlighted in such a manner that it helps one way or the other the international media, that has opened all its guns to malign Pakistan, its government and its security agencies.

Anon said...

Very many thanks for all the comments. I note the point about how the Pakistan authorities would have noticed any jamming of radar systems.

- Aangirfan

Anonymous said...

So the choppers flew in, one above the other, looking like a regular commercial flight to the radar screens, with friendly ID electronics... ?

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