Monday, February 08, 2010

LED ZEPPELIN and Clockwork Orange; VIETNAM WAR and Bloody Sunday

Led Zeppelin

What connects Led Zeppelin and Clockwork Orange to the Vietnam War and Bloody Sunday in the UK?

In 1970 the USA was losing the war in Vietnam.

In 1970, in the USA, US soldiers shot dead four students at Kent State University. (Kent State shootings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia )

In 1972, Britain faced a miner's strike which led to much of the country's industry working a three-day week

In 1972, in the United Kingdom, British troops shot dead 13 British civilians.

Seven of the dead were kids.

At least five people were shot in the back.

This was Bloody Sunday. (Bloody Sunday (1972) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

Peter's comment on the post "THE CLASSIC SEX SCANDAL" referred to Christopher Knowles's post, on 3 November 2007, entitled Kenneth Anger, Jimmy Page and Lucifer Rising

Christopher Knowles wrote: "1969 was the year the utopian dreams of the 60’s Generation came crashing down to Earth....

"A new band called Led Zeppelin, sporting a harsh new sound and dark, occultic worldview crashed the Peace and Love party setting the stage for a parade of quasi-satanic imitators."

In 1971 the film Clockwork Orange came to our cinemas.

Were the fascists in the security services trying to toughen people up?

Were musicians and film makers being used to control our minds?

Are kids getting more disturbed and violent?

In the 1940s, Brigadier Gen. S.L.A. Marshall claimed that only 15-20% of America's World War II soldiers would use their weapons in battle.

"Those (80-85%) who did not fire did not run or hide (in many cases they were willing to risk great danger to rescue comrades, get ammunition, or run messages), but they simply would not fire their weapons at the enemy, even when faced with repeated waves of banzai charges” (On Killing, by Lt. Col. Dave Grossman, p. 4 - The Canadian National Newspaper: Twilight of the Psychopaths )

According to Marshall: the American comes "from a civilization in which aggression, connected with the taking of life, is prohibited and unacceptable….

"The fear of aggression has been expressed to him so strongly and absorbed by him so deeply and pervadingly — practically with his mother’s milk — that it is part of the normal man’s emotional make-up.

"This is his great handicap when he enters combat. It stays his trigger finger even though he is hardly conscious that it is a restraint upon him."

Marshall’s research, and later research, showed that in wars most soldiers are a waste of time, so far as the psychopathic generals and politicians are concerned.

On 1 January 1915, the London Times published a letter from a major reporting that in his sector the British played a game of football against the Germans opposite and were beaten 3-2.

Kurt Zehmisch of the 134th Saxons recorded in his diary: "The English brought a soccer ball from the trenches, and pretty soon a lively game ensued. How marvellously wonderful, yet how strange it was. The English officers felt the same way about it. Thus Christmas, the celebration of Love, managed to bring mortal enemies together as friends for a time."

What has been the reaction of the Pentagon and its friends?

The military has shown violent films to its troops, to toughen them up.

And it may be trying to get kids to watch more violent media.

Anthony Burgess wrote Honey for the Bears, which reportedly is about CIA-funded mind control experiments, of the sort carried out by Dr Ewen Cameron from 1957-63. (Anthony Burgess by Roger Lewis, 2002. Chapter 5).

Anthony Burgess also wrote A Clockwork Orange which is about violence and attempts at mind control. A Clockwork Orange was turned into a film.

Roger Lewis, in his biography Anthony Burgess (Chapter 5), refers to his meeting with a British spy; this spook tells Lewis about the links between A Clockwork Orange and mind control experiments in the USA.

Roger Lewis suggests that Burgess was himself a spy, possibly in the pay of the CIA.

It has been suggested that Hollywood has long been used by the CIA in connection with the brainwashing of the public.


BBC iPlayer - Andrew Marr's History of Modern Britain: Paradise Lost


Edo said...

Aangirfan, this article reminded me of this poem.


Men who a few short months before the slaughter
Had voted Socialist,
And who had voted internationalist,
Who had struck for higher wages,
Against their respective employers and Capital,
Were now once more united
In common purpose and on common land -
Fritz and Tommy met in No Man’s Land,
And briefly shared a deepened understanding
Of how nationhood had hoodwinked them,
And destroyed lives and mutual empathy;
Not for them the knowledge
That British shells paid royalties to enemy patents,
As Capital respected Capital,
Christmas trees and fags and beer,
And frost-breath football,
Silhouetted against a setting blood-red sun –
And who cares about the score?
Who cares if Germany won 3 – 2?
The deeper question is
“What if they had played again the next day?”
And the day after that?
And what if they had played mixed sides,
And dispensed with birthplace
As the sole criterion for selection?
Whatever next?

© Stuart Butler - 12 Dec 2000

Edo said...

Aangirfan, need to sort the linkage on that Andrew Marr iplayer link old chap.

Hubris said...

I had two interesting conversations about Bloody Sunday with two individuals who had British Army connections

the first was with an Ex-Paratrooper who I got to know well while working with him - we rarely discussed his time in Northern Ireland but when we did I was impressed with his understanding of the politics and the situation overall - it was he that first proposed the idea that the NI situation meant that NI became a very useful training ground for the Army as well as it being a useful excuse for the enactment of anti-'terrorist' legislation which helped cow the public and which conveniently allowed the security forces to monitor the activities and communications of many non-NI related political groups

anyway he maintained that within the Para regiment, members of the regiment steadfastly asserted that they HAD been fired on that day, which caused the soldiers to attack the crowd quite viciously, believing that the crowd had first attacked them.

At the time I still had my doubts as to the honesty of the Para regiments claims of being fired upon.

a number of years later I frequented a bar in Germany which was a hang-out for off-duty British soldier. I struck up a friendship with a guy who it later transpired was the son of a one-time officer in the Royal Green Jacket regiment, which were used as 'sharpshooters'. The RGJ were stationed in NI in 72.

He told me that his father had got into some trouble in 72 because of some questions he had been asking which disturbed some high-up officers in his regiment.

The father had heard some members of the regiment claiming that some RGJ members were stationed on some roof-tops nearby on the day of Bloody Sunday, but when he went to check on this there appeared to be no official record of any members of the regiment being on active patrol/duty on that day in the vicinity of the incident.

However his sources were adamant that the RGJ were there that day and that they had fired shots. He approached fellow officers of the regiment with his concerns that he could find no official record of any incident involving RGJ members despite there being much talk in the mess confirming that they were there - he was told to shut up and mind his own business if he knew what was good for him.

The son told me that in a conversation he had with his father, it became evident that his father believed that it was members of his own RGJ regiment who fired on the Paratrooopers that day - that they were under secret orders to provoke the Paras into attacking the crowd at the march. His father believed that there were 'elements within the 'security apparatus'' who wanted to inflame the situation so as to provoke the republican side in reaction that would eventually lead to open warfare between the two sides.

Anonymous said...

Charles Manson was a mind control slave. His case was designed to make hippies look like murdering occultists. That way the gov't could justify shooting students and hippies.

Just look at Charlie's background. He grew up in an institution. They snapped his brain, and then used him like a dog. Even today, Charlie doesn't realize that his mind is gone, bc they wanted to use it....

Anonymous said...

Regardless of the conflict, you will always find the snearing jew in the fringes and shadows, financing both sides and profiting from the carnage.

petkov said...

there is SO much bullshit in the article, I dunno where to start. But let's keep it simple.

Man's nature is to be a violent animal. The Universe we exist in is a violent place. For you to live something MUST die. That something could be a vegetable, a fruit or an animal. So is the law of this Universe.
Violence exist ALL around us. Violence is natural.
Humans that lived before us, even our grandparents had a much better handle on Reality itself. It is at last maybe 20 30 years or so where this refusing to accept the nature and trying to build this fake facade people like you began to write such bullshit.
Led Zeppelin and Clockwork Orange, wow! Try to be more modern, shall we? Maybe use Korn or Disturbed or
American Psycho as examples instead of ol' Zep. Im surprised you didnt mention Stairway to heaven and how Zep record a prayer to Satan in it.
You probably dont let your kids watch nature shows because "they show the killing of animals".
I wasted enough time on your bullshit.

Anonymous said...

It's obvious that "the man" is responsible for the "counterculture" of the 60's, because if it were the actual threat to the establishment that it has been portrayed as, "the man" could have easily suppressed it. However, I also remember the idiot preachers who decades back (and almost certainly today) screamed that bands like Black Sabbath were Satan-worshippers, when anybody with a modicum of intelligence could figure out that they were the exact opposite. I also remember when these same imbeciles claimed that Ozzy Osbourne's lyrics were responsible for two or three dimwits offing themselves, even though millions of others had managed to listen to them without any problem. Oh, well, I GUESS THOSE OTHERS JUST WEREN'T SMART ENOUGH TO GET IT!

Interested parties should check the series called Inside the LC: the Strange but Mostly True Story of Laurel Canyon and the Birth of the Hippie Generation at

Anonymous said...

I just recently read a book called "Conversations with the Crow - The Final Conversations of Robert Trumball Crowley"

Crowley was the former head of the CIA's dirty tricks department and this is the closest thing one might come to a "death bed confession".

These are transcribed conversations between two former spooks whose lives seemed to overlap and you get to listen in as they are talking shop.

Wickedly funny, disturbingly revealing, utterly fascinating. Thought you might want to see it.

Anonymous said...

The Jewish people as a whole will become its own Messiah. It will attain world dominion by the dissolution of other races, by the abolition of frontiers, the annihilation of monarchy and by the establishment of a world republic in which the Jews will everywhere exercise the privilege of citizenship.

In this New World Order the children of Israel will furnish all the leaders without encountering opposition. The Governments of the different peoples forming the world republic will fall without difficulty into the hands of the Jews. It will then be possible for the Jewish rulers to abolish private property and everywhere to make use of the resources of the state. Thus will the promise of the Talmud be fulfilled, in which is said that when the Messianic time is come, the Jews will have all the property of the whole world in their hands."

— Baruch Levy, Letter to Karl Marx, 'La Revue de Paris', p.574, June 1, 1928

Anonymous said...

petkov said
mans nature is to be a violent animal.
sounds all well and good and somehow reflects what we see around us,but fortunately its wrong
read a little about a thing called ESS(evolutionary stable stratagies)and see that ANY species that behave in the manner that humanity is having fostered on him for any great length of time would just destroy itself
man is not an insanely violent species by nature
nature tells us that.

Anonymous said...

A youtube video compilation of every violent act portrayed in the Advertisements screened during the recent U.S. Superbowl championships

Anonymous said...

"Just ask the Axis, He knows everything..."

nobody said...

Petkov you social darwinist pig. How dare you insist we view the world through your headspace. If you think violence is all around you, you are merely telling us about you. The only violence I see is on the TV and that's only there because other social darwinist shitheads like you insist that 'this is the way it is'.

If you want to see how it's perfectly possible for things to be otherwise read this.

War is over if you want it. I'm thinking you don't want it. I'm thinking you'd be the guy screaming, 'Get Some!'

james said...

Go, Nobby!!!

In all of God's creation, predator animals, incl humans, only kill other species out of necessity. They fight within their own species for domination but not to the death.
The exception to all this is psychopathic humans who kill for profit and not necessity and wage war to the death for domination. They are at war with the whole of creation and the world's only enemy.

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