Monday, July 01, 2013

THE 'PROMISED LAND' IS NOT A 'PLACE'; INTIMIDATED BY 'JEWS'




During the 1980s there were new discoveries in archaeology.

The story of the 13th century BC exodus from Egypt into the PROMISED LAND was shown to be a myth. 

Moses could not have led the Hebrews out of Egypt into the Promised Land, because the Promised land was Egyptian territory at the time. 

The archaeologists say there is no trace of either a slave revolt against the Egyptian empire or of a sudden conquest of Canaan by outsiders. 

Nor is there any trace or memory of the Biblical kingdom of David and Solomon.


Just a parable.

"Biblical promises about the land of Israel were never intended to be taken literally, or as applying to a defined geographical territory, the report argued...

"Biblical promises about the land of Israel are a way of speaking about how to live under God so that justice and peace reign, the weak and poor are protected, the stranger is included, and all have a share in the community and a contribution to make to it. 

"The 'promised land' in the Bible is not a place, so much as a metaphor of how things ought to be among the people of God.

"This 'promised land' can be found - or built - anywhere."



THE 2013 REPORT is from the Church of Scotland.

The inheritance of Abraham? A report on the ‘promised land’ (*.PDF document)

The Israeli Ambassador commented negatively on the report.

Representatives of the Scottish Council of Jewish Communities, the Board of Deputies of British Jews, the Movement for Reform Judaism, and Rabbis for Human Rights held a meeting with the Church of Scotland.

At this meeting, it was agreed that the report would be withdrawn and revised

(Church statement is available here. The revised report)

Assessing the Kirk's report on theologies of land in the ... - Ekklesia


General assembly

The revised version was debated at the Church of Scotland's annual General Assembly in Edinburgh.

Rev Sally Foster-Fulton said: "This is primarily a report highlighting the continued occupation by the state of Israel and the injustices faced by the Palestinian people as a consequence.

"It is not a report criticising the Jewish people. Opposing the unjust policies of the state of Israel cannot be equated to anti-Semitism. "

The revised report was overwhelmingly accepted by the Assembly.

Kirk backs controversial Israel report | Herald Scotland



In 2010, there was debate in the Church of Scotland about the possibility of boycotting Israeli goods.

The Rev Ian Galloway withdrew the proposed boycott call as a result of the threat to the Church’s work in the region from Israeli laws designed to make boycott calls illegal.

"The General Assembly 'may take this legislation to be intimidatory', said Mr Galloway, adding sorrowfully: 'We are intimidated.'"

Assessing the Kirk's report on theologies of land in the ... - Ekklesia

There were only about 50,000 Jews in Palestine in 1918. (Cached)

On that day the LORD made a covenant with Abram and said, "To your descendants I give this land, from Seattle to Orlando and from Boston to Los Angeles - the land of the Apache, the Huron, the Blackfeet...."

Genesis 15:18-21

The Palestinians are most likely the original Jews.


Most of the Jews in Israel are not the original Jews of the Bible, but people who converted to the Jewish religion.

Most of the Jews in Israel are descended from people in countries such as Germany, Georgia, Ukraine, Yemen, and Morocco who were not originally Jewish.

The Palestinians are most likely the original Jews.

Schlomo Sand, professor of history at Tel Aviv university, wrote about the Zionist myth at Le Monde Diplomatique, in September 2008.

(Zionist nationalist myth of enforced exile: Israel deliberately forgets its history)


Palestinians - who probably converted from the Jewish religion to Islam.
Among the points made by Professor Sand:

1. In 70 AD, the Jews were allegedly exiled and went to live in countries such as Yemen, Morocco, Spain, Germany, Poland and Russia.

2. At the end of the 19th century, people claiming to be Jews began to talk about setting up a Jewish state.


The 'Jews' who invaded Palestine were terrorist gangsters from places such as New York, Warsaw and Belarus.

3. Is the Bible historically accurate?

The first modern Jewish historians, such as Isaak Markus Jost (1793-1860) and Leopold Zunz (1794-1886), did not think so.

They saw the stories of the Old Testament as being useful parables.


Victim of an Israeli rocket.

4. During the 1980s there were new discoveries in archaeology.

The story of the 13th century BC exodus was shown to be a myth.

Moses could not have led the Hebrews out of Egypt into the Promised Land, because the Promised land was Egyptian territory at the time.

The archaeologists say there is no trace of either a slave revolt against the Egyptian empire or of a sudden conquest of Canaan by outsiders.

Nor is there any trace or memory of the Biblical kingdom of David and Solomon.


Many of the Nazi leaders were part Jewish.

5. The Kingdom of Israel was a tiny little place.

6. Were the Jews exiled in 70 AD?

The Romans never exiled any nation from anywhere on the eastern seaboard of the Mediterranean.

The Jewish population of Judea continued to live on their lands after 70AD.

Some converted to Christianity in the 4th century, while the majority became Moslems during the 7th century.


Most Zionist thinkers were aware of this.

Yitzhak Ben Zvi, later president of Israel, and David Ben Gurion, Israel's first prime minister, accepted it.

Both stated on several occasions that the Palestinians were the descendants of the Jewish inhabitants of ancient Judea.

So, the Palestinians are the real Jews.


Begin and his Betar members wore brown shirts and used the fascist salute. (Cached )

7. So, what about the people in Europe and elsewhere who claimed to be Jews?

From the 2nd century BC onwards, many people were forcibly converted to the Jewish religion.

Many Europeans, Africans and Asians were converted to Judaism.

For example, in the 1st century AD, in Kurdistan, there was the Jewish kingdom of Adiabene.

In the 5th century, in Yemen, a Jewish kingdom emerged.

Arab chronicles tell of North African berber tribes becoming Jewish, during the 7th century.


Israel tries to control the politicians.
8. In the 8th century, the most important mass conversion took place.

This was in the huge Khazar kingdom between the Black and Caspian seas.


Judaism spread from the Caucasus into the Ukraine, then into Eastern Europe, and on to Germany. 

The Yiddish culture of Europe involved people who had converted to the Jewish religion.

9. The Israeli forces who seized Jerusalem in 1967 may have been descendents of Germans, Yemenis, Berbers and Khazars.

Victims of Israel

At Haaretz, on 21 March 2008, Ofri Ilani wote about shattering a 'national mythology'.

Shattering a 'national mythology' - Haaretz - Israel News

Ilani refers to Dahia al-Kahina, a leader of the Berbers in the Aures Mountains.

Al-Kahina was the daughter of a Berber tribe that had converted to Judaism.

According to the Tel Aviv University historian, Prof. Shlomo Sand, author of "Matai ve'ech humtza ha'am hayehudi?" ("When and How the Jewish People Was Invented?"), the queen's tribe and other local tribes are the main sources from which Spanish Jewry sprang.

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Wayist

14 comments:

Zoompad said...

Nicholas Lemann

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CC8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FNicholas_Lemann&ei=uabOUZyeE9Sc4gSS3ICYCA&usg=AFQjCNFguQG4MtM9xxRNB9GjWP5JYDo_kA&sig2=Du9VHlL1CkSWTJTF_bCkzw

I believe the Bible, rather than this man's account. I don't know many things, but I do know that Jesus Christ is alive, that he really did die on the cross and rose 3 days later, and Jesus would have told me if the Bible was all a big lie, I know he would.

Some people are trying to dismiss the Bible as a bunch of fairy stories and legends. They don't like the Bible because of what it says in Leviticus. Them saying the Bible isn't true doesn't make what they are saying true.

aferrismoon said...

600,000 wandered for 40 years.

In Hebrew letter-numbers:

40 = M [ medial ]
600 = M [ final ]

M - Mayim ] appears, esoterically, to imply a period of development

Moses or MShH [ Moshe ] also begins with M

The 600 [ with a few extra 0s] was used in a later 'development' of 'Jewish' mytho-materialist history.

"Mayim, Mem-Yod-Mem, traditionally the sea or waters, and the biosphere as the optimal environment for the evolution of life."
www.psyche.com/psyche/lex/mayim.html

cheers

Anonymous said...

Does anyone recall the name of a documentary that was made a while back wherein a camera crew went back to a Palestinian neighbourhood with a former Jewish resident (Semitic and Arabic-speaking) and reunited him with his Muslim neighbour? They'd been very good friends with their kids playing with each other and their wives swapping recipes. This being back in the forties before the Zionists had either kicked out the Muslim or the Jew, I can't recall which.

In the documentary the two sat outside and swapped stories. I recall the Jewish fellow apologising to his friend about all that had gone on and the Muslim had said that it wasn't his fault, rather it was 'all these Poles and Russians' or words to that effect.

Does anyone recall the name of this show? It screened on SBS in Australia if that's any help.
neighbours.

Anonymous said...

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/06/28/paedophile-priest-exposes-satanic-vatican-rent-boy-sex-ring_n_3517013.html?utm_hp_ref=uk

These children come from my country, they are Romanians....

Anonymous said...

http://english.pnn.ps/index.php/politics/5020-occupy-gaza-,-israel-s-former-minister-urges

http://mycatbirdseat.com/2013/06/camerons-torah-government/

Obama arrives in Pretoria, protesters burn US flags

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/311290.html

Anonymous said...

BANKERS! Mark Steel Nails It

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fikApnMbUuU

Horrific video of beheading raises questions of arms supply to Syrian rebels

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qJa7pu5jWJA

http://www.globalresearch.ca/towards-a-world-war-iii-scenario-the-role-of-israel-in-triggering-an-attack-on-iran-2/20584

http://www.globalresearch.ca/washington-is-driving-the-world-to-the-final-war/5340949

No More Myths said...

For more information about the Abrahamic religions, go here:

http://kennysideshow.blogspot.com/2012/10/no-more-myths.html

Newspaceman said...

Firstly, many thanks for the link.

Re "The Romans never exiled any nation from anywhere on the eastern seaboard of the Mediterranean"

But they (perhaps) exiled the Scots/Picts when they built Hadrian's Wall. No one knows for sure it's true purpose.

cheers

Newspaceman said...

Sorry, forgot to say that the Church of Scotland's logo/symbol is the St. Andrew's Cross, laid over Moses (the alleged exodus leader) and his burning bush.

Some say that Moses was Akhenaton.

The Scottish Declaration of Independence is maybe revealing too.

cheers

Anonymous said...

The Bible is truth. It just has to be. If so many run their lives by it how can it not be true. Take worship on Sunday gods day. If everyone desired that Sunday is such a perfect day for worship God would understand and just change his day. Its simple "you can do and say anything because God is on YOUR side". He cares about what you do only if you believe completely in him. Being chosen gives you faith even if said book has been changed 30000 times? Its still gods creation second only to YOU. Or its fairy tales and you're alone!

Anonymous said...

@anon 8:22 - this is no place for religiotard propaganda. thank u

Anonymous said...

I HAVE SEEN A VERY OLD PHOTO ALBUM OF PALESTINIANS IN ISRAEL. IT WAS MADE BY A WELL KNOWN PHOTOGRAPHER AND IS PROBABLY WORTH MILLIONS.

Anonymous said...

This video may contradict the position taken in the post:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18gvJwx8VyI

RabbiT

Anonymous said...

The Promised Land is our Spiritual Estate/serenity/heaven in the eternal moment of now, to all people who Believe, and go on Believing when all else in the environment appears hopeless. xx

 
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