Friday, November 09, 2012


Lord Alistair McAlpine. Photo: REX

Senior Tory 'wrongly linked' to child abuse

Senior Tory 'wrongly linked' to child abuse -

'Mistaken identity' led to top Tory abuse claim - The Guardian

The Guardian and Telegraph have named Lord Alistair McAlpine - as a person 'wrongly linked' to child abuse.

It is being suggested that the late Jimmie McAlpine, who is related to Lord Alistair McAlpine, may be the person referred to by witnesses as a child abuser.

Lord Alistair McAlpine was close to Margaret Thatcher and helped finance her campaigns.

Jimmy McAlpine lived near the Bryn Estyn children's home in Wrexham; he chaired the north of England builders Alfred McAlpine Ltd.

Steve Messham, a former resident of Bryn Estyn, said he had been taken to a Wrexham hotel and sexually abused by a top Tory more than a dozen times.

A local councillor, Keith Gregory, who was also a victim of abuse at Bryn Estyn, told the Guardian he did not believe Lord Alistair McAlpine was the person involved.

Keith Gregory said he thought a different member of the McAlpine family who lived locally may have been mistaken for Lord McAlpine.

Steven Messham told the Waterhouse inquiry his abuser was dead, whereas Lord McAlpine is alive.

When a Times reporter put Lord McAlpine's name to Steven Messham in 1996, Steven said his abuser was  called Tom.

Local concillor Keith Gregory said boys from Bryn Estyn would be taken to the homes of two McAlpine family members in the area - Gerwyn Hall and Marchwiel Hall, both a few miles from Wrexham town centre.

Gerwyn Hall was occupied by Jimmie McAlpine, who died in 1991, six years before the Waterhouse inquiry began.

Lord McAlpine has made a statement – full text

Steven Messham

Steve Messham, former resident of the children's home Bryn Estyn, has now offered 'sincere and humble apologies' to Lord McAlpine and his family.

He says: 'After seeing a picture in the past hour of the individual concerned, this [is] not the person I identified by photograph presented to me by the police in the early 1990s, who told me the man in the photograph was Lord McAlpine.'

Read more:

Wendy by Graham Ovenden

Anonymous left this comment:

"In May 2003 the London Evening Standard reported that Lord McAlpine was the 'well-known and anonymous collector' for whom Bloomsbury Book Auctions was selling a collection of 344 'fashion and eroticism' photographs, including '10 snaps of very young girls in very suggestive poses by Graham Ovenden'.

Alistair McAlpine, Baron McAlpine of West Green.

"Graham Ovenden is on a Ministry of Justice list of suppliers of material indicative of paedophilia - p.11"

Steve Messham, the former Bryn Estyn resident, told Channel 4 News that he passed photographs of children being abused, including himself, to the police but they failed to act.

Photographs of Wales abuse 'were handed to police'

Steven Messham told Channel 4 News that, aged 16, he broke into the flat of one of his abusers to get hold of photographs of the abuse he suffered.

He says: "What was on those pictures was unbelievable... The police do admit there were pictures, but not to the extent I say .... crazy."

The photos reportedly showed lots of men, including a top politician, raping boys. 

He says he could see men's faces clearly, but the police said they could not identify the men from the pictures.

Photographs of Wales abuse 'were handed to police'

The Crest Hotel in Wrexham, 'where child abuse took place'.

On 8 November 2012, Channel 4 News broadcast live from outside the former Crest Hotel – now Wynnstay. 

(Unnamed 'Former Local Public Servant' Implicated In Wrexham Sex ...)

They interviewed Sian Griffiths the former head of personnel at Clwyd Council.

Sian Griffiths ‘kept every detail’ in ‘extensive files’.

"The manner of the Waterhouse inquiry was discussed, with recollections of by Griffiths of a witness asked to list people possibly involved so they ‘rattled names off…and got to the point where he named somebody who has been high up in the governement’ at that point he was stopped from giving evidence by Waterhouse. 

Griffiths said 'he was a high profile public figure and still alive'.

"Other criticism was voiced with an example of a different high profile public figure being named, but was not called to give evidence, when ‘nobodies’ were named and yet were called."

Sian Griffiths was asked “Are there people out in the community now who should be behind bars?” She replied “Yes, yes.”

Sian Griffiths referred to 'a local public servant at the time' and how one victim was not able to give evidence against him as he was terrified, saying 'thats how powerful the man is'.

Later this mystery person was referred to as being “key” to any investigation.

The former local public servant 'was also named in a list of offenders in a paedophile ring shown to Channel 4 news'.

"Channel 4 displayed sections, without names, of the lists they were given saying it was claimed around 50% of the names on the list were not investigated.

Channel 4 stated the “high profile local official” is named in this list.

Further, referring to the previously reported ‘pulped’ copies of a Clwyd Council report into abuse, Channel 4 say they believe copies still exist.

Channel 4 suggested that the two new investigations ‘could do worse than start at the kitchen table of Sian Griffiths’. hopes that the reams of evidence on show on that kitchen table are independently secured as soon as possible to ensure any investigation – criminal or otherwise – can refer to them.

Unnamed 'Former Local Public Servant' Implicated In Wrexham Sex ...

The Brighton flat.

In 1992, a fire at a property in Brighton killed Adrian Johns, a key witness to the child abuse at Bryn Estyn.

Fire victims' relatives call for new inquiry | Mail Online / The family destroyed by being `in care' - Life & Style - The Independent

It has been suggested that Adrian's brother Lee "may have accessed computer data detailing financial transactions between South Coast drug dealers and those running a porn video and rent-boy network." 

Lee was found dead in 1995.

AU - Mystery Arson

Anonymous left this comment on "THE WATERHOUSE 'COVER-UP'":

Re the fire in the property at Brighton/Hove (Palmeira Avenue) which killed the following people [ages of persons are as in 1992]:

Timothy Sharpe, 28, the party host
Paul Jones, 33, a trainee chef from Brighton
Adrian Johns, 31, unemployed, from Brighton
Andrew Manners, 29, an electrical maintenance engineer from Cheltenham
Mabel Roberts, 48, a nurse from Colwyn Bay, North Wales

Timothy Sharp was celebrating his twenty-eighth birthday when the fire that killed him broke out in his flat.

The fire was on 18 April 1992, and is referenced in the Waterhouse Report in paragraph 21.40.

Another attendee at the party was Trevor Carrington who survived the fire but was later apparently run down and killed by a truck (on 21 April 1992, on the Lindfield to Ardingly Road), hours after allegedly confessing to starting the fire!


However, the fire investigator who examined the building, which had no fire escape, said the fire was started in three places at once!

Other reports have it that the Palmeira Avenue flat was linked to tycoon Nicholas van Hoogstraten.

The whole thing stinks...

Guardian’s George Monbiot Apologises To Lord McAlpine

Monbiot’s now-deleted tweets included:

I looked up Lord #McAlpine on t’internet. It says the strangest things.

I can confirm that Lord #McAlpine was Conservative Party Treasurer when Mrs Thatcher was prime minister.

Historical fact of the week: Lord #McAlpine was a well-known treasurer of the Conservative Party during the Thatcher era.

Thatcher's friends. Website for this image...

According to the Daily Star:

Police investigating a child sex ring at the heart of Margaret Thatcher’s government were warned: "Stop investigating if you want to keep your jobs."

A teenage rent boy told police that a Cabinet minister had been abusing him.

The boy said that he was one of a number of boys regularly having sex with top people.

Boys from Europe would also fly in to attend the top people's child sex orgies.

Daily Star Sunday

Belgium's Dutroux gang supplied girls to the elite, to be tortured and murdered.

According to the Daily Star:

The boy named a British Cabinet minister, who is still alive.

The boy referred to judges, members of the European elite and senior civil servants.

The boy disappeared, after blowing the whistle.

According to the Daily Star:

The police received allegations against the minister from a number of sources.

The police ­discovered top people were ­paying the boys to attend sex parties at 'millionaire properties'.

Some of the top child abusers were said to have flown in via Royal Air Force Northolt on the outskirts of London.

Paul Bonacci, who said that, as a child, he was kidnapped by the US military, tortured and subjected to sex abuse and mind control. In 1999, in a court in Omaha, he won $1,000,000 in damages. (Mind Control Victim Awarded $1 Million)

According to the Daily Star:

One boy told the police that wealthy men from Belgium attended the parties.

The married Cabinet minister the boy named held a series of top jobs in government.

Police sources in the minister's home region said there are allegations that he was once found trying to abuse the son of a friend.

Sir Jimmy Savile, friend of Israel and various prime ministers, was a frequent visitor to Bry Estyn.

"Detectives 'had a cast made of Savile's teeth' to check against bite-marks left on the bodies of the 'Yorkshire Ripper' victims...

Cast of DJ's teeth was made.

"Savile's teeth were examined in 1980, a year before Peter Sutcliffe was convicted of murdering 13 women and attempting to kill seven others....

"Police knew that Savile used prostitutes, according to a friend of the dentist involved....

"Two of the Ripper's victims were found near Savile's home in Leeds...

"Sutcliffe named Savile in police interviews."



Zoompad said...

Haven't they all been busy!

That still does not explain the huge cover up, it just looks like yet another Basil Fawlty style attempt to cover up for the paedophiles/murderers.

I think Cameron has a lot of explaining to do as well. I would like to know why I have been repeatedly hacked, had my social networking repeatedly fiddled about with, had my thousands of letters to him and other MPs and the media about the Pindown and secret family courts scandal ignored, had cars parked outside my home and people planted in nearby houses paid to spy on me, I have so many grievances!

I would like Cameron to explain this:

and this:
and also I would like Cameron to explain why every copy of the Allan Levy QC Pindown Report has been removed from all the Staffordshire public libraries reference departments?

I am one of the Staffordshire Pindown child abuse victims.

thetruthhurts said...

Why did David Cameron react to being shown a piece of paper by a TV presenter yesterday with the alleged Tory party paedophile names as he did?, Cameron said this shouldn't end up as a witchhunt into homosexuals,(if he genuinely knows nothing about it which of course he does), that was an odd inference on his part. Why did he say this was about homosexuals, how did he know that the alleged weren't being alleged to have abused girls in this instance?

Anonymous said...

wht are jews so upset with the unmasking of savile and pals ?
they say they went to palestine as they came from there but they did not, read this
Ashkenazi - Originally used to describe the Jews of Medieval Germany and Northern France (on the strength of a Talmudic passage, the word "Askenaz" is identified with Germany) or their descendants. Now generally used to describe the Jews of Eastern European origin and their ritual.

The order and type of service ("nusach") may differ slightly at Ashkenazi synagogues. The one used by the vast majority of Ashkenazi synagogues in the UK is known as Nusach Ashkenaz. Another, Nusach Ari (or Ha'Ari) is used by a number of old or Chassidic congregations. It was compiled by Rabbi Isaac Luria in the sixteenth century. A third, Nusach Sefard, which is close to Nusach Ari, is the Ashkenazi nusach most widespread in Israel, and is used by a number of synagogues established in the UK by Israelis, as well as by several old congregations.

Sephardi - Used originally to describe the Jews of Spanish and Portuguese origin ("Spharad" is the Hebrew word for Spain) or their descendants. Now loosely used also to include all Jews of oriental origin and their ritual, other than the Yemenites.

Temani (Yemenite) - Jews from the Yemen (including Aden). Although often included as Sephardi, their ritual differs considerably from that of the Sephardi Jews.

Anonymous said...

When is the inquiry starting? It will have to hear from the police officers who viewed the photos. If only Messham had kept a copy and could post a twitpic.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

In May 2003 the London Evening Standard reported that Lord McAlpine was the "well-known and anonymous collector" for whom Bloomsbury Book Auctions was selling a collection of 344 "fashion and eroticism" photographs, including "10 snaps of very young girls in very suggestive poses by Graham Ovenden".

Graham Ovenden is on a Ministry of Justice list of suppliers of material indicative of paedophilia - p.11

Anon said...

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "LORD McALPINE 'WRONGLY LINKED' TO CHILD ABUSE":

There was a pedophile who raped and kiled several boys in a gang that preyed on boys from care homes called sydney cooke. Before he died he told of other members of his gang, two of which were murdered wxxxxxx cxxxx and another whose name escapes me, one of this ring was xxxx xxxx who was xxxxx butler.

Anon said...

kevin huw morgan has left a new comment on your post "SAVILE ABUSED BOYS AT BRYN ESTYN":

They're just scratching the surface even with mentions of necrophilia on top.

And the political blackmails the international paedo set had (ref Belgium and the Gladio net based at Mons) they were used to help try to get clandestine nukes and the Aum group actually got the Brits to test one for them.

& those who controlled the Belgian paeds linked to the Penn State and Savile and e.g. Black Preceptory lot so's to help international neo-nazi net who tag themselves "T4" in memory of Tiergarten Fier.

BNP and EDL types also get attracted to this sort of thing because of the promise of super weaponry that is held out due to the political blackmails that can be engendered.

Cxxxx and Oxxxxxx's fathers were up to their necks in this sort of thing and had quite a lot to do with stuff including making sure that the 9/11 structural steel joists had plenty of thermite put on them in expectation of fliers flying into the towers.

Yep, paedo is so powerful it has many quasi-military considerations and quite often service personnel who get disgusted with FRU at Deepcut Barracks get themselves bumped off and it gets put down to bullying - and the "Det" aren't any better.

The paedo blackmail helped to get the H1N1 "Swine Flu" show on the road - an attempt at genocide with avian flu gene attached to human flu attached to 3 diff types of swine flu to give global spread except it didn't quite work in the way they hoped.

In fact this writer made sure the Lab where swine flu was gene-engineered... made sure the boys couldn't play with that particular toy again.

How d'yu like them potatoes?

Oh, the Lab?

Made sure IBM applied for a Welsh Assembly Strategic Grant to seize it (the Singleton Lab in Swansea).

And black hole left in Assembly cash as it was central government should have closed the Lab - I then mooted that "black hole" could be indicated to help promote the electrification of South Wales rail so's to consequently try and help small business etc etc.

Wonder what'll be done with the next cover-up that the far right can use for political blackmail.

Another bash at using swine flu as a promoter of avian flu perhaps?

Well, after all, it can display theoretically a 90% kill total which would leave all the nuke power stations without staff and going critical and so forth.


Anonymous said...

Looks like they've come at last foir the Ickester.

Unknown said...

Thank you Aangirfan.

Outstanding work. Truly outstanding.

Zoompad has fearlessly stated:

"I think Cameron has a lot of explaining to do as well. I would like to know why I have been repeatedly hacked, had my social networking repeatedly fiddled about with, had my thousands of letters to him and other MPs and the media about the Pindown and secret family courts scandal ignored, had cars parked outside my home and people planted in nearby houses paid to spy on me, I have so many grievances!"

That is a heroic reference to the daily reality of the Gangstalking of whistleblowers and bloggers by Them. A favourite technique is the helicopter flyby. If any further information is needed by any doubters to verify this reality:

As Zoompad has spoken of the paid employment of watchers to stakeout the homes of Targeted Individuals is a daily reality in the UK, USA and other NATO countries.

Indeed home incursions, drugging, sexual assault (simulated and real), psychological harassment, theft, psychotronic attack are all part of the modus operandi used.

Carol A. Valentine

Anon said...

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "LORD McALPINE 'WRONGLY LINKED' TO CHILD ABUSE":

Lord Mo.....

Anonymous said...

Worth listening to again - Question Time BBC radio 4. [i-player]
"go to the police.." is the refrain. That's the last place I'd go...
and Lord (David) Steel doesn't think child abuse is widespread,for he has no experience of it.

Anonymous said...

Re. Cameron's "witch-hunt" comment :

Why on earth would an honest fight to expose corrupt paedoophiles turn into a witch-hunt against gay people? UNLESS Cameron is suggesting that gay people are predisposed to underage sex. Is that what he's saying?

The Prime Minister is being disingenous.

Anonymous said...

Re: Cameron's "witch-hunt" comment :

Why on earth would an honest fight to expose corrupt paedoophiles turn into a witch-hunt against gay people? UNLESS Cameron is suggesting that gay people are predisposed to underage sex.

The Prime Minister is being disingenous.

Holly said...

where to put this ?

I'm a british born ex pat, living in France for last 40 years. I've just spent most of two years in the UK and witnessed the Rochdale trial, and the Pakistani honour killing trial, and the August 2011 riots. Now, I'm back in France and am trying to read about the Saville and other revelations and found this blog.

These things bring back memories of those previous decades, and also my wonderings recently about the latest string of scandals.

a few cents of my conclusions :

- as quite a few are saying about the entertainment celebs, it was different then. Well, I think that it's true, that you can't judge the sixties and seventies with norms of today.
- But it's important to talk about it, and recognize the victims.

- However, where did it come from ? I think it was a backlash from the puritan attitudes (Victorian, in the UK), from the US, with the hippie and then new age movements. It was a revolt against the narrow mindedness and overpowering of religion, and in the case of the UK, the overpowering influence of the traditions, the royalty, the churches, the aristocracy and the public school system, and the sheer brutality against children.

-I did my high school and teacher training college in Scotland in the sixties. Corporal punishment was the norm. Caning in England, in Scotland, it was hitting kids on their hands with a thick belt. Someone in my school had his fingers broken by a particular robust science teacher.

-As a student teacher, we were sent to all sorts of primary schools, including catholic ones. I once walked out of one in a poor area because of the extreme brutality.

-A friend in my village used to be an 'assistant' to the local catholic priest. Without saying as much, we realized that more than just assisting the mass was going on.

-Beating kids was the norm. I did a single week at Butlins holiday camp for my holiday work, because I witnessed a horrible beating of a little kid who had strayed from his parents.

-Later, I met a guy who had been to Eaton. He told of how the older pupils would cane the younger ones. I met one of his old school friends. They told me how either they turned out as 'ultra establishment', or as weirdos, with all sorts of personality problems. It was also the case of my friend, who took all sorts of drugs and became a sort of hippie with an Eaton accent.

Well, that was the seventies. Everybody was living with this new culture, myself included. I was never involved in sexual licence with children but knew about it, in the 'communes' (communities), those happy hippy places where everyone loved everyone and it was thought that child sex was fine.

I did however hear about the darker side, the brutality of the borstals, the Dr Barnados goings on, as we had to do a 'project' for our psychology subject and one of my friends did it in the local home. She didn't really know what it was, but sensed that some things were going on without being able to put her finger on it.

The years passed, and the American, then the Irish, then many other countries reveal the horrific abuse of children by the Catholic Church.

Belgium case, that I did read a lot about, and the x-file witnesses. Then the Outreau case in France, another time where a young and inexperienced judge bungled it.

The Polinsky case. But also his film, Eyes wide shut.

Also read some of the D. Icke stuff, and thought that some stuff might be true, but determined he was inventing stuff just to get fame and money.

What made me mad recently was the sheer PC british society that was revealed in the two trials mentioned above. I already knew that Britain had a totally different policy towards immigrants and society than France, where secularism is strict and appreciated by most. I had a personal bad experience with a radical muslim doctor in a hospital. I wondered where the multi culturalism came from.

Holly said...

I got an insight when reading about the Rochdale case. An op-ed by someone who told how, as a teacher training student in the early eighties, he was told that they should teach differently to immigrants. He said that at the time, he thought it was a bad idea, as how would they integrate ?

In fact, I realized that not only education, but all the other social services would have had the same instructions - the police, the courts, the social welfare and care, the local councils.. all being told to let the immigrants have a different treatment.

Then there was the gradual 'teaching' of the population, that nothing could be said, as it was 'racist'.

I confirmed this with all my neighbours, family and friends, they all said the same thing, 'we can't say anything, but I agree, it's not right'.

I see that religion is still rife in Britain, a huge percentage of religious primary schools, and some islamic schools that can teach what they want, creationism, with veiled girls. Religious instruction in state schools. Public figures showing their religious affinities. Royalty, head of church etc.

So, I consider that there should be a double effort here, by the medias and the politicians and the intellectuals. Ok, and true, to reveal and punish those who were the worst abusers, recognition of all the abused, all the cover-ups, recognition for the victims, vitally important. Their lives often have been destroyed.

But, also to concentrate on the PRESENT abuse going on almost unheeded, under-exposed, of immmigrant abuse, notably muslim, but not only, some hindu, some Kurd, and Sikh, because, in the name of 'tolerance' and multi culturalism, the victims are not able to be heard, and helped. As everyone knows, some muslim countries are still living in the dark ages concerning child and women abuse. Many muslim immigrants continue their traditions of marrying their daughters to first cousins, bringing in their forced marriage husbands (or wives), with their backward behaviour, and even second or third generation will remain in that mindset.

Once again we have seen the PRESSURE to cover up and ignore abuse, in the name of PC, of threats from these immigrant communities, and from various associations, and I would say that it's like the sixties and seventies all over again, in certain areas.

One doesn't have to go far to read blogs, forums, of cries for help, of discussions between radical muslims and their 'advice', which is worse than the dark ages of the inquisition.

There shouldn't be two standards, one for white Brits and another for immigrants. What went on in the sixties and seventies needs to be dealt with, but what is going on today, is, IMHO more important, because another generation of abused and neglected will bring their psychological problems into society during the next decades.

interesting read :

(now paying)

Anonymous said...

brian barroughs
cavendish rd
the government and the BBC are only concerned this scandal wil re rail theor much vaunted gay agenda, to re habilitate homosexuals, stage 2 is to make us all gay.

Holly said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

brian barroughs
cavendish rd

he government and the BBC are only concerned this scandal wil re rail theor much vaunted gay agenda, to re habilitate homosexuals, stage 2 is to make us all gay.

You crazy or what ?

Zoompad said...

"That is a heroic reference to the daily reality of the Gangstalking of whistleblowers and bloggers by Them"

It's horrible, because when you try to tell people they think you are being paranoid.

But my neighbours and friends know I am telling the truth.

At one point I actually had to go round the town telling people that if I dissapeared to help me, that was when they were constantly threatening me with jail in the secret family courts. HOW THE BLOODY HELL CAN ANYONE TREAT ANOTHER HUMAN BEING LIKE THAT?

Most of the people in the town were really concerned, people are becoming aware of the revolting things that are bgoing on in this country, the breakdown of anything that resembles a proper justice system.

It made me laugh out loud to hear them talking about retaining the credibility of the BBC this morning. ITS TOO LATE, IT IS TRYING TO SHUT THE STABLE DOOR WHEN THE HORSE HAS RUN AWAY!

Sorry for shouting, but some days I just laugh and cry, you dont know what to do some days.

Jesus said not to be frightened, and I cling to the Lord. People have mocked me because of my faith, but I cling to the Lord. I do get scared, but when I get scared I talk to the Lord and tell Him all my fears and sorrows. That woman in The King and I sang a song about that, and so I think of things like that when I get really scared, try to anyway, because it is very scary, when you think about it, we are so small and they are so massive, but the Lord is bigger than any of them, that I know.

They hate the Lord, they absolutly detest him, even though many of them pretend to be ministers of the Lord and lawyers and administrators of the laws. It is funny, in a sad sort of a way.

Anonymous said...

Re: May 2003 the London Evening Standard McAlpine Story

There is no trace of this in the ES archives around May 23, and the Wiki entry which was added and removed did not have a hard link. Unless scanned copy of the ES shows up that reference should be treated as dis-info.

The real evidence to support the story is here:

And confirmation - especially on the Graham Ovenden aspect:

And detail on the collection:

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