Friday, November 23, 2012

CHILD ABUSE, ARMS DEALS, MURDERS, DEEP STATE, CYPRUS, IRAQ, WALES



Lord McAlpine, who got money for the Conservative Party from Asil Nadir

Anonymous left a comment, on the post "COLBY, BARAK, ROTHSCHILD, EPSTEIN, MAXWELL...", pointing out possible links between the UK child abuse scandal and the sale of arms to Iraq.

1. TheTurkish Cypriot newspaper Kibrisli (13.01.12) reported that Britain illegally sold weapons to Saddam Hussein's regime through a company run by a wealthy British businessman called Asil Nadir.

Lord McAlpine persuaded Asil Nadir to give a large sum of money to the UK Conservative Party.

Cyprus Expat | Blog: Asil Nadir's Company Used For Selling weapons to Iraq...



Asil Nadir.

2. The Turkish newspaper reported that "an experienced intelligence specialist, who worked for 20 years with the CIA", told the Turkish newspaper Cumhuriyet that a CIA document shows that the British 'deep state' used Nadir’s company for an illegal weapon's sale.

CIA document shows deep British state involved in secret arms sale ...

"The documents which contain the details of USA-UK cooperation, along with the cover for the secret weapon sale’s network, expose that the 'deep state' used a series of dirty paths, including murder.

"The documents prove that Unipac, a company based in occupied Famagusta and which is connected to Nadir’s Polly Peck, was among a set of companies used for selling guns to Iraq.

"According to the intelligence specialist, Mark Thatcher, son of ex-Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, received a 12 million fortune from a weapons sale and Nadir’s company Polly Peck tried to cover it. 


"This pushed the button for the company's collapse under the British Serious Fraud Office."

Cyprus Expat | Blog: Asil Nadir's Company Used For Selling weapons to Iraq.


Elizabeth Forsyth (born Elizabeth McAlpine), left, with Asil Nadir's family, in Kyrenia, Northern Cyprus, in July 1987

3. Asil Nadir ran an international fruit, shipping and leisure conglomerate, called Polly Peck.

Elizabeth Forsyth was Nadir’s personal banker.

‘My father Thomas McAlpine of the Scottish McAlpine construction family always treated me as if I was an adult,’ she says. 

The £29m riddle: Why DID Asil Nadir come back? 

"It was a raid on Miss Forsyth’s company, South Audley Management (set up to manage Nadir’s personal matters), by the Serious Fraud Office in September 1990 that triggered the collapse of Polly Peck International...

"The sudden implosion of the international fruit, shipping and leisure conglomerate left 23,000 shareholders with worthless stock...

"Nadir later fled by private jet to his home in Northern Cyprus where he remained until two years ago."


Miss Forsyth's conviction for handling stolen cash was overturned on appeal

The £29m riddle: Why DID Asil Nadir come back? 


 

4. Angus James Wilson was the co-founder of Scallywag Magazine, together with his half brother Simon Regan.

Angus told Simon "that he had been supplied with compromising pictures of ...."

The photos were of a top cabinet minister, alleged to be linked to the Welsh child abuse scandal.

Reportedly, in 1996, Angus took the photos to Northern Cyprus to show to Asil Nadir.

Almost immediately afterwords, Angus died in a car crash in Cyprus (September 1996.)

Someone "took all Angus's possessions into his own custody, presumably with the photographs."

Angus James Wilson died in 1996 and Simon Regan died around 2000.

justice denied: death of scallywag co founder angus james wilson ...


Sterling Sub-Machine Gun, the weapon at the center of James Edmiston’s arms-to-Iraq trial. SOURCE: Reg Speller/Fox Photos/Getty Images 

5. Anonymous comments:

"I understand MI6 used British companies to get around the embargo; many were collapsed to take the fall, leaving a lot of disgruntled businessmen like Gerald Reavney James, Astra.

"Scallywag (Wilson, Davis) had compromising photos of Y, which they were selling to Nadir.

"Giovanni di Stefano is representing Nadir: he has refused to withdraw allegations re X.

"X was somehow connected to the SA nuclear matter.

"No wonder there was no libel claim re the Scallywag article."


Mafia?

Reportedly, the CIA document, which has not yet been made public, implicates "MI6 agent Stephan Kock" and contains the statement that the arrest of Polly Peck CEO Asil Nadir was arranged through the British Serious Fraud Office.

CIA document shows deep British state involved in secret arms sale ...

"Claims have also been made that apart from Mark Thatcher, the then Defence Sales Organisations chairman Lord Levene and British Military Services chairman Lord Cuckney had retired after having become millionaires from the arms sale to Iraq.

"The CIA document also gives coverage to the suspicious death of experienced journalist Jonathan Moyle in Chile in the wake of the surfacing of allegations concerning Matrix Churchill, Astra and CIA connected Chilean company Allivane regarding the arms sale to Iraq. 

"Claims had been made that Stephan Kock was responsible for the suspicious death of Moyle who was the editor of the Helicopter Defence World

"There are claims that Moyle was murdered in a way that looked like natural death after he had started investigating Cardoen who was a close friend of Mark Thatcher and was in control of the Allivane company which was planning to sell helicopters to Iraq.

"There are other claims which say that the MI6 and SAS were responsible for the murder of Gerald Bull who was killed in an assassination that was carried out outside his home in Brussels. Gerald Bull was a Canadian engineer who was the architect of the arms sale apparently."

CIA document shows deep British state involved in secret arms sale ...

Arms-to-Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
1996: Arms-to-Iraq report published
The arms for Iraq scandal: Firm claims pounds 4m from taxpayer to ...


Anonymous left this comment:

[Still trying to figure it out, hope it's interesting to someone other than me!]


Britain - The Elected Dictatorship | openDemocracy


'Frank Machon (via Allivane, a CIA company) shipped radioactive material from the ASTRA Faldingworth depot in Lincolnshire, to Iran and Iraq.'

So, Machon was working with MI6/CIA. I'm not sure why Davis started investigating arms to Iraq. Perhaps, she developed a conscious after developing thyroid problems.

I'm too young to recall this history, this is new to me:

'...North Sea bonanza of £120 billion had been reinvested overseas, and that Britain no longer needed to rely on its manufacturing base. What Young failed to disclose, was that this windfall had been squandered on export credit defaults over unlawful arms sales to both Iran and Iraq. The Thatcher government with her brilliant Chancellors, Nigel Lawson, Norman Lamont, and the banks, set crippling interest rates.'

'The Thatcher government had originally seen the arms shipments, as a way to secure cheap oil, which was to be refined and brokered through Shell and BP, were both companies would make a large profit.'

'At the end of the hostilities in 1945 a settlement with the United States, saw the US take over bases all over the UK, from which they have consistently used to launch strikes on Tripoli and more recently Baghdad. This is and the reason why Blair is acting under direct orders of Washington. A Police witness statement by Terence Charles Byrne Snr of Allivane, disclosed the stark reality of the situation. Britain has no independent nuclear capability, and missiles from our Polaris Fleet of submarines can only be fired by permission of Washington, which holds the launch codes. This explains why the United Kingdom is a proxy state, subordinate to the whims of United States foreign policy.'

So CIA seem to control UK nuclear deterrent, and Davison was investigating this. 

18 comments:

Anonymous said...

Is this the 'SA nuclear matter' referenced - http://www.presstv.ir/detail/212022.html and here http://eyreinternational.wordpress.com/tag/maggie-%C2%A8thatcher/ ??


Anon said...

Sorry, I have no inside information.

- Aangirfan

Anonymous said...

My grandfather was a foreign reporter for a now extinct newspaper called the Daily Herald,
he went out to palestine as the Jews were shooting our people along with locals, he arrived with 2 jews to interview Menachim Begin
about what was happening, he found a young arab boy raped and with his throat being cut by begin,
who laughed it off.
The men were all armed so my father said nothing, but later the body ofa 10 year old arab boy named Abdul youssef was dumped by the bus garage, his body had been drained of blood. My Grandfather often spoke of how awful the jews were and i will always remember this story
Susan Wilkins.

Anonymous said...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-22/mcalpine-pedophilia-tweet-cases-may-expand-u-k-defamation-law.html

Anonymous said...

I'm the Anon who wrote the comment and should have qualified it by saying: "I know absolutely nothing, and am simply trying to make sense of the information available on the net.'

The info re X and the SA nuclear issue seems to come from Gordon Bowden & Peter Eyre. [I'm not sure how reliable they are - they seem to be trying to make sense of these issues as well.] See comments here re John Bredencamp.

http://the-tap.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/wasp-on-andrea-davison-and-why-shes.html

So if Davison was working in the interests of Nu Labour, I understand why they would use this issue to get at Conservatives. But surely it was not in the interests of the establishment, MI6 nor Israelis/Zionists to expose Arms2Iraq?

Did Davison go rogue or was she working for someone else? In whose interest was it to expose - Soviet Union/Germany?

Could Davison have been a Soviet agent??


Anonymous said...

i wish to say peter eyre is scrupulously genuine, his website is well worth seeing.
I saw a gret article recently caled
" do you have a spank account "
this told of london madames who had intel links BTW jimmy savile was a close freind of the israeli premier menachim begin who was by all accounts a f...g racist nutter.
Pete wilson

Anonymous said...

'When arrested, Davison was working on exposing that a foreign power owned UK nuclear deterrent.'

WHO???

Para 2.9 Skeleton argument:
https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?10589-Andrea-Davison-claimed-she-worked-for-the-security-services/page2


Davison worked with Frank Machon, described as an 'enigmatic spy'. He is said to have spied for GB in Eastern Europe during WW2. Machon is a Czech/Polish surname (wonders if any connection to Annie Machon).

Anonymous said...

http://21stcenturywire.com/2012/11/23/mclibel-2-0-why-did-itv-hand-over-125k-out-of-court-for-schofields-list/

Well it looks like a not-so-cleverly disguised 'consultant's fee' to me.

Anonymous said...

Secret service types are in every newsroom all over the world, controlling the narrative.

Anonymous said...

Maybe Davison didn't develop a conscience. If Machon was CIA, maybe Davison was turned. [Can you be turned by a friendly intel agency?] Perhaps US commercial interests were in competition with US commercial interests, or maybe a faction of CIA. I think I'm at CIAEuroCommunists!

Any log-ins from Argentina?!

Anonymous said...

Argentina - Falklands of course] but was also a Nazi stronghold.

CIAEuroCommunist - Could she be DVD? Is there something to the Christopher Story claim that there is an intel war with the DVD?

Barney Thomson said...

Quote -

"Elizabeth Forsyth was Nadir’s personal banker.
‘My father Thomas McAlpine of the Scottish McAlpine construction family always treated me as if I was an adult,’ she says."

According to Burke's, Sir Thomas, 4th Baronet (1901-1983, first married 1934, died "without issue".??? Is there another "Tom" McAlpine that no-one has heard of yet?

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread898490/pg#pid15317088

Anonymous said...

david Cameron was quite right when he splutered out that he did not want the jimmy savile affair to turn intoa gay witch hunt, my sister in law works for s childrens charity and she said that
most boy abuse is not folloed up, they only take a smaller percentage, but the majority of all child abuse is up the bottom
e g "gay sex" exactly as cameron said.

Anonymous said...

Soneone here is being deliberatly
disengenous, Gerald Bull was a ballistics genius, who got the British government out of a hole more than once, he was an independent armaments expert bar none.
The Israelis told him who he could work for and who not, but like Dr David Kelly he knew too much, so the Israelis killed this
this is verrified and expalined in foreign office documents.
EXCOP

Anon said...

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "CHILD ABUSE, ARMS DEALS, MURDERS, DEEP STATE, CYPR...":

[Still trying to figure it out, hope it's interesting to someone other than me!]

http://www.opendemocracy.net/britain_the_elected_dictatorship_0

'Frank Machon (via Allivane, a CIA company) shipped radioactive material from the ASTRA Faldingworth depot in Lincolnshire, to Iran and Iraq.'

So, Machon was working with MI6/CIA. I'm not sure why Davis started investigating arms to Iraq. Perhaps, she developed a conscience after developing thyroid problems.

I'm too young to recall this history, this is new to me:

'...North Sea bonanza of £120 billion had been reinvested overseas, and that Britain no longer needed to rely on its manufacturing base. What Young failed to disclose, was that this windfall had been squandered on export credit defaults over unlawful arms sales to both Iran and Iraq. The Thatcher government with her brilliant Chancellors, Nigel Lawson, Norman Lamont, and the banks, set crippling interest rates.'

'The Thatcher government had originally seen the arms shipments, as a way to secure cheap oil, which was to be refined and brokered through Shell and BP, were both companies would make a large profit.'

'At the end of the hostilities in 1945 a settlement with the United States, saw the US take over bases all over the UK, from which they have consistently used to launch strikes on Tripoli and more recently Baghdad. This is and the reason why Blair is acting under direct orders of Washington. A Police witness statement by Terence Charles Byrne Snr of Allivane, disclosed the stark reality of the situation. Britain has no independent nuclear capability, and missiles from our Polaris Fleet of submarines can only be fired by permission of Washington, which holds the launch codes. This explains why the United Kingdom is a proxy state, subordinate to the whims of United States foreign policy.'

So CIA seem to control UK nuclear deterrent, and Davison was investigating this.

Anon said...

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "CHILD ABUSE, ARMS DEALS, MURDERS, DEEP STATE, CYPR...":

Not sure if Ex-Cop's comment is directed to me. Gerald Bull was killed because of the Supergun, which I think is some kind of HARP/nuclear device. The Israelis were on board with arms to Iraq and Iran generally, save where their interests were threatened.

Seems to me everyone was on board with the Iran/Iraq/cold war and selling arms.

No-one exposed arms sales whilst it was happening. I think it started to come out after a Customs find.

But if Labour was to get back into power, then it needed to look at Tory funding, some of which may have been coming from arms deals. I've seen reference to T.. ..... who was MP in .......... receiving some of this money.

Still not sure why Davison & Wilson were selling compromising photos to Nadir - whether they wanted the cash themselves or were acting on behalf of Labour.

mindandmotive said...

Anon 808am...

the voice of your writing,,the patterns sound very familiar to me....

great info here. ill be watching....


wwwasp.

Anonymous said...

@anon 6.57. I understood that Davison and Wilson had received a cheque from Nadir to help with the costs of Scallywag. I have no knowledge other than stuff written by Regan, published on the internet.

Asul Nadir: It was always said he remained in N.Cyprus until he came back to the UK. I worked formerly as a freelance writer/journalist and on a private trip there decided to have a go at interviewing Nadir. I found out where his house was and drove there. It was a beautiful rustic villa in walled grounds. I was stopped by guards with sub-machine guns. One was very aggressive, but the other had a smoke with me. I gave him some B and H fags and he told me that Adir was away in Ankara. He said he also went to Russia. This was in September 1995. Had I known about the Scallywag death, I wouldn't have gone to Nadir's place. I went to a restaurant a few hundred yards away from Nadir's place. On both occasions Ralf Denktash was there.

 
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