Sunday, June 24, 2012


Lianne Smith and her daughter. (MYSTERIOUS DEATHS OF CHILDREN)

In the UK, Lianne Smith was head of the Cumbria County Council department set up to protect children.

She also reportedly worked as a prostitute, working for her paedophile partner.

Lianne Smith went on to run a nursery for children aged 3 to 6 in Barcelona.

Lianne Smith murdered her two young children, five-year-old Rebecca and 11-month-old Daniel, in a Spanish hotel.

Martin Smith died mysteriously in jail.

On 8 may 2010, in Barcelona, Lianne Smith's partner, Martin Smith, was arrested.

The 'former TV psychic' was accused of rape, gross indecency, indecent assault and attempted rape, all against a child under 16.

The allegations date back to 1995.

A former child abuse detective pled guilty to inciting a 15-year-old girl to engage in sexual activity. Andrew Rowe, who befriended his victim's family during his work with Staffordshire Police's child abuse investigation unit, admitted five sexual offences.

Did killer mother Lianne Smith work as a prostitute?

It has been claimed that Lianne Smith once worked as a prostitute offering 'personal services' to clients across the North of England.

A senior police source in Britain said: "It is generally understood by those investigating the case that Miss Smith was offering sexual services to clients - that she was in fact a prostitute."

Lianne Smith is from the county of Staffordshire, which, like Cumbria, 'has been linked to possible government organised child abuse'.

Martin Smith, Lianne's partner, died mysteriously in a jail in Manchester in the UK.

"Lianne was highly suspicious of Children’s Services talk of a ‘common purpose’ regarding children." 


Both Cumbria and Staffordshire social services knew 5 year-old Rebecca was at risk when Martin Smith was arrested in 2007, on suspicion of rape

Yet they allowed the family to escape to Spain before Rebecca could be taken to safety.

Cumbria social services say they passed the file to Staffordshire.

The Spanish social services say: ‘Nobody put us on alert and so nobody took any measures to protect the children.’

Even after Martin Smith was deported to the UK, Staffordshire social services did not ask the Spanish to rescue Rebecca, and two weeks later she was dead.

Daughter of double child killer Lianne Smith tells of being raped by her stepfather and how her mother blames her




Zoompad said...

I was put in a Staffordshire Pindown children's "home" in 1973, for running away from being abused, it was supposed to be a Place of Safety but was being run by child abusing pimps. I found a suicide note in the cell they put me in tucked behind the radiator, and it was the only thing I had to read or do while I was locked up in there, I remember that the girl who wrote it was 13, the same age as me, and she wrote that her father had abused her and that people in the home were having sex with her, and that she was going to escape in the only way she could, it was a terrible letter and it was the only thing I had to read while I was there.I didnt get raped in there because I had what I suppose was a nervous breakdown and they sent me to a psychiatric hospital. The people who were running that foul dump that was supposed to be a childrens home and place of safety are etched forever in my mind as devilish monsters. When I read Nicholas Nickleby's Mr Squeers it makes me think of the horrible man whose hands Staffordshire Social Services delivered me into. Reading that book makes my stomach turn, because it was happening in Dickens days, and is still happening today. Child prostitution and abuse was rife in his days.

About a year ago I got talking to someone in Stafford about the Pindown child abuse, and he told me that there had been some rum goings on in the childrens homes and that upper class people had been using the kids as prostitutes. I tried to get him to tell me more stuff, and name names but he didnt want to. Until people grow some balls and start spilling the beans on specific people involved I doubt that anything will change.

Anonymous said...

George Wiskin was chairman of NHS North Staffordshire.

Anonymous said...

Zoompad said...

Sorry, I meant 1971. But the reason I get muddled up with dates is because Staffordshire agencies including Stafford police have fiddled about with my records, altering details and dates to try to minimise what they did.

Zoompad said...

Very interesting!

NHS North Staffordshire Board of Directors

NHS North Staffordshire is governed by a Board of Directors which includes seven lay members, representative of the organisation area and from a range of backgrounds.

The role of the Board of Directors is to provide a strategic overview of the organisation’s operation, including monitoring progress against the Local Delivery Plan. The Board of Directors also ensures that the key requirements of public accountability, probity and public involvement are fully met through publicly transparent systems. The decision-making processes followed by the Board of Directors take account of public opinion, prevent conflicts of interest and ensure compliance with legal frameworks.
Aliko Ahmed - Director of Public Health
Elizabeth Akurang - Non Executive Director
John Borthwick - Non Executive Director
Howard Cartwright - Non Executive Director
Naomi Chambers - Non Executive Director
Dr Kenneth Deacon - Medical Director
Andrew Donald - Director of Commissioning and Development
John Howard - Non Executive Director
Dr David Hughes - GPCC Executive Chair
Barry Machin - Non Executive Director
Tony Matthews - Director of Finance
Sally Parkin - Clinical Representative
Sue Price - Director of Primary Care Specialised Commissioning
Graham Urwin - Cluster Chief Executive
Ian Walton - Non Executive Director
Jan Warren - Director of Quality and Nursing
Dawn Wickham - Director of Partnership and Planning
George Wiskin - Chairperson

Zoompad said...

What a load of crap. Martin Smith is gone now, and good riddance, he won't be wrecking the lives of any more kids.

That's another reason (as if I needed one already) why I won't have anything to do with the UK Column.

Anonymous said...

It makes me sick seeing LIANNE SMITH brought in the face of a kangaroo trial. She killed her children to protect them from becoming victims of paedophiles, there was no other way and obviously in this retard society things are upside down, no wonder...

Anonymous said...

Zoompad said...

What's there to hide from the public?

Wednesday 30th May 2012
1.00 pm – 3.00pm
Cluster Headquarters, Staffordshire University,
Blackheath Lane, Stafford, ST18 0YB

Date and Time of the Next Meeting
Thursday, 28 June 2012 1.00 pm, Staffordshire Cluster of PCTs, Blackheath Lane, Stafford ST18 OYB
The Chairman to move the following resolution: - "That representatives of the press and other members of the public be excluded from the remainder of this meeting, having regard to the confidential nature of the business to be transacted, publicity on which would be prejudicial to the public interest" (Section 1(2) Public Bodies (Admissions to Meetings) Act 1960)"

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felix said...

Wiskin - very very interesting. The Police reports give the indication that he is a nobody. Former Headmaster of Westwood High School, Leek (now Westwood College)

felix said...

PS " I will step down as the Chairman of NHS North Staffordshire as of November 30th [2011], but will ensure that the people of North Staffordshire are represented through the Non Executive structure"

Zoompad said...

According to Lancashire Police Neil Esseen there is nothing suspicious about the death of George Wiskin (move along there, nothing to see)

Well I'm not sure how much Neil Esseen can be relied on as far as suspicious circuumstances are concerned. After all, he was the one who made a statement about poor little Ollie McBride.

What with the Mick Gradwell Haut de la Garenne child abuse cover up I don't reckon Lancashire Police are going to have a very credible reputation for honest truth, not until they spill the beans and come clean!

felix said...

Sunday morning post-mortem, "natural causes" (which is not a cause of death). All very normal. I'll move along now.

Zoompad said...

I won't though. I want to know why the British Brainwashers hid his role with the NHS

Zoompad said...

Back to Leanne Smith. Brian Gerrish has now made a statement supporting her as well.

Lianne Smith - Why There Are Questions To Be Asked
BLOG | JUNE 27, 2012 - 11:21AM | BY BRIAN GERRISH
In recent days the press and media have been full of reports and vitriol over the trial and conviction of Lianne Smith for the murder of her children, Rebecca and Daniel, in a hotel at Lloret de Mar Spain. We express our great sadness and anger at the loss of those young lives. But should we direct our anger at Lianne, as is the case with the mainstream media? Or is there more to this case that has still not been reported, and others must also share the blame?
We believe that that the real truth of the events in the hotel Miramar Spain is still to be told.
How can we say this? Because Lianne Smith contacted the UK Column a few weeks after her arrest in Spain for killing her children. She had learned of my talk “Child Stealing by the State” and wanted to contact someone who knew about the abuses in child protection.
Then, and in the following 2 years, Lianne has only ever asked for the real truth about what she did and why to come out, so other parents and children do not suffer. Why did her first comments ring a bell with the UK Column? Because other mothers have admitted to us that they had considered killing their children, rather than allowing them to be taken by Children’s Services, to suffer horrific abuses within that system. Those mothers did not kill their children, but their honesty revealed the intense trauma that they were suffering as they were ‘hunted’ for their children. The word ‘hunted’ is their description, not mine.
Stressed, traumatised and disturbed, Lianne finally killed her children to protect them. She is the first to take that terrible step, but the deeply personal admissions to the UK Column suggest there will be other mothers like her.

Zoompad said...

After carefully deciding to stay with her story, we met both Lianne and Martin Smith, took statements, reviewed evidence and exchanged correspondence and telephone calls. This material shows that individuals, organisations and state machinery in Britain have not told the truth. We also attended court for Martin Smith, and Lianne Smith’s recent trial in Girona.
We reported Martin Smith’s court case in our January 2011 edition. The trial was littered with bias and irregularities that led to complaints being made against presiding Judge Irwin. Jurors slept, the public was barred from seeing the case, police accused members of the general public attending of being ‘terrorists’, police witnesses left the court to make secretive telephone calls, and mistakes in key DNA evidence were not revealed during proceedings. Nor did Martin’s defence team ask key questions about hearsay evidence made against him.
Martin hanged himself in Strangeways prison in January this year. An alleged suicide at the very time that he had started to fight for truth in his own case. His cell was quickly cleared of documents and other possessions by the police and it is believed that, contrary to normal procedures, these items have still not been passed to the Coroner. A date for an inquest remains in a year or two.
The UK Column has never worked on hearsay. We check our facts and we investigate the stories that we print. We are interested in truth, not profit. We report on matters in the public interest. Someone must, as the mainstream press and media increasingly do not.

Zoompad said...

I make this statement because the Lianne Smith and Martin Smith cases are a minefield of media hate - hate for Lianne Smith as a child murderer, hate for Martin Smith (deceased) as a paedophile, and hate anyone who doesn’t follow those emotions.
Yet simple investigation into these cases reveals many questions that need to be asked. The first being - what would actually drive a mother to kill her children rather than allow Social Services to take them?
Lianne’s story is not the story in Spain - tragic and terrible though that was. The real story starts with her being ‘flagged” by Cumbria Social Services because she dared to home educate her children.
Her story continues with her professional work, knowledge and experiences with education and children’s services in Cumbria. A period in which she learned the truth about abuses within the child protection system, including plans to make anyone who came into contact with children ‘quasi social workers’, who would watch and report for the state system. Lianne vowed to expose and deal with these and other abuses, and she said so publicly. Her bravery was rewarded by colleagues warning her that she was making enemies in the system. The UK Column is aware of more than one case of the sexual abuse of young boys in the ‘care’ of Cumbria Childrens Services.
Later Lianne reported major breaches of Child Safeguarding procedures by Staffordshire Social Services as they hunted her for her young daughter.
To date there are no real reports of Lianne’s kind personality and background, her respected professional work, her struggle to challenge social services. Hounded for her young children and desperately trying to protect a partner, who was then innocent - since no trial had taken place - Lianne was left alone in her world of fear, stress and mental turmoil in a foreign country. Her mental state at the time of the killings was recognised by the Spanish jury - a fact that was mostly denied in UK.
She is now branded as a prostitute by the police, her eldest children and sloppy journalism, with no factual, provable evidence to support the accusation.
The same sloppy press and media state that Martin Smith was not the father of Becky and Daniel, the children tragically killed by Lianne. They do not report that prosecution and defence teams knew at his trial that key DNA evidence had been ‘mixed up’. That ‘mix up’ was never reported or corrected. Had that happened Martin might have been alive to day as a free man. After all, he was accused of repeated rape without using contraception.
Lianne awaits sentencing. She will not only serve a sentence in prison. Her real sentence will be the memories of her children and what she did. Why she did it, is still to be told. The UK Column has promised to help get the real truth out. We stand by that promise and hope that good people out there will assist us in that task. We will comment further once her sentence has been passed.
Brian Gerrish
Founding editor

Unknown said...


I worked with Lianne Smith at Cumbria County Council for a period of about three years. The facts quoted in the UK column are inaccurate on many levels. Lianne was a manager of the Extended Services team which was set up to ensure that 'wrap around' care was provided before and after school in primary and secondary schools. She managed a team of advisors who worked with heads and other teaching staff to achieve this. At NO point was she ever able to make a move towards the directorship for children's services and the agenda they raise regarding 'quasi' social workers is basically a paranoid description of the every child matters agenda which was intended to ensure that cases of abuse were more able to spotted more easily by pushing GP's, social workers, teachers and other professionals to make contact regarding specific cases so that all evidence could be considered, rather than allowing another case, such as that of Victoria climbie, who was was murdered after repeated contact with a myriad of professionals from different disciplines.

If they had spoken to one another and the notes from each area had been viewed as a whole, then the decision would have been for social services to intervene - as it was, she was left to die after sickening and severe abuse at the hands of those who were supposed to be caring for her.

This was introduced to prevent these type of cases from occurring again in the British system.

Yes, I have absolutely no doubt that those in the care system have been subject to abuse from those in power but lianne smith was in absolutely no position to either uncover this abuse, or to make enemies of anyone 'in power'. Incidentally, the reason families of home educated children are 'flagged' is due to the fact that abusive parents want to hide their children from professionals and that this is an effective method of doing so.

Lianne herself was an interesting individual. She could be friendly but was generally very reserved and had a cold edge to her. She was also capable of snapping and showing extreme reactions when under stress. I got the impression of a very repressed and isolated individual. However, I did actually like the person that she was then, generally polite and very intelligent.

I honestly believe that due to the stress of coping with what she has done, lianne has entered a paranoid and delusional world in an attempt to justify her actions. I don't blame her, I believe that she was in an abusive relationship with an extremely controlling man and was entirely under his spell and despite his death, one fromvwhich she is unlikely to emerge. I hope for her sake that she can one day fully admit to the enormity and horror of her actions, without relying on paranoid excuses as justification.

Anon said...

Many thanks for all the comments.

- Aangirfan

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