Monday, September 19, 2011

BRITISH AND FRENCH CAPTURED IN LIBYA


On 19 September 2011, we learn that Gaddafi loyalists have captured 17 foreign mercenaries

Reuters is reporting that the Gaddafi forces say they have captured some British and French mercenaries.

The Gaddafi forces have beaten back repeated attacks by the anti-Gaddafi National Transitional Council forces.

An attempt by the anti-Gaddafi forces to set up 'a more inclusive interim government' fell apart on 18 September 2011.

According to a Gaddafi spokesman: "A group was captured in Bani Walid consisting of 17 mercenaries.

"They are technical experts and they include consultative officers.

"Most of them are French, one of them is from an Asian country that has not been identified, two English people and one Qatari."

The 'mercenaries could be special forces or people from private security firms.




Misrata, also spelled Misurata, is a city in Libya.

brian comments as follows:

The Misurati commander says that Benghazi owes them money and respect for the Misurata ‘martyrs’, the wounded and amputations, for all what they have done, including destroying the Gaddafi army in Misurata and elsewhere.

"Think about the armies we destroyed, Man.

"We destroyed 16 battalions in Misurata.

"There are MASS GRAVES of Gaddafi soldiers, but we are not supposed to talk about it.

"Who destroyed them? And you are talking about a National army? Where is your National army of Benghazi?

"We are taking major casualties right now. Ambulances and planes are full of our casualties; hospitals are full of Misuratan rebels! Where is the help coming from Qatar? Where are the weapons coming from Qatar?

"You guys are excluding us from Libya like if we were Bangladesh.

"You are doing worse than Gaddafi, forgetting us and putting us apart."

http://justpaste.it/luzbek

10 comments:

su said...

off with their heads.
the equivalent of economic hit men.

Michael said...

Aang,

Even the UK Telegraph is now talking about how Tony Blair has in the past visited Libya as a paid lobbyist for JP Morgan:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/tony-blair/8772418/Tony-Blair-visited-Libya-to-lobby-for-JP-Morgan.html

IIRC I read about JP Morgan in Libya months ago on this blog.

arthur zbygniew said...

new post: no moral case for tax havens

Genie said...

ditto su: off with their heads.

brian said...

must read:
....
- The Misurati commander says that Benghazi owe them money and respect for the Misurata ‘martyrs’, the wounded and amputations (?), for all what they have done, including destroying the Gaddafi army in Misurata and areas “ Think about the armies we destroyed, Man, we destroyed 16 battalions in Misurata, there are MASS GRAVES of Gaddafi soldiers, but we are not supposed to talk about it. Who destroyed them? And you are talking about a National army?! Where is your National army of Benghazi? We are taking major casualties right now. Ambulances and planes are full of our casualties; hospitals are full of Misuratan rebels! Where is the help coming from Qatar? Where are the weapons coming from Qatar? You guys are excluding us from Libya like if we were Bangladesh. You are doing worse than Gaddafi, forgetting us and putting us apart”
http://justpaste.it/luzbek

Anonymous said...

arthur zbygniew,

Sorry for the longwinded posting, but this always riles me...

The article is worthwhile, however it's facile. The world is a far more complex place.

There are indeed good moral cases for tax havens.

Tax authorities worldwide are often abusive, unjust and confiscatory, including in the Western world. Are you happy that some of the fruit of your labour is commandeered by the likes of Qinetiq, Northrop and SAIC to inflict death and impose technocratic tyranny throughout the world? Are you happy your money is used even against you, through the increasing refinement of a grid of technocratic control?

Would you be happy to live in Sweden, where most of your human effort is stolen from you to be used for whatever social engineering the central planners deem fit, whether you like it or not.

The whole concept of excessive and abusive taxation has become so ingrained that we do not even think to question it.

Instead we wish to inflict the same tax misery on everyone that has been inflicted on us.

The problem is not tax havens, per se.

It is tax justice.

Even worse, people are easily suckered into supporting a Tobin tax, or Robin Hood tax as it's propagandistically called. But do you ask which faceless unaccountable bureaucracy will get this tax money? Do you ask what they'll do with it?

Same thing with the Buffett tax. This is an income tax, not a wealth tax.

The very wealthy do not pay themselves excessive salaries, rather they accumulate money and avoid making it taxable.

Warren Buffett knows this better than anyone, which shows what a two-faced hypocrite he is. Yes, it's a PR stunt.

People also defend consumption taxes, which ultimately really are just a tax on the poor.

Personally, I see a just tax systems as follows:
- Tax only excess wealth of natural persons. That is, personal tax only, no company tax, no consumption tax, no transaction taxes, etc.
- Abolish corporate personhood and other such artifices that hide beneficial ownership and control (tax-exempt trusts,etc)
- Tax should mostly be collected and used locally, with progressively smaller amounts going to larger political entities. Hence most tax goes to the local community, less to the state, and even less to the nation.
- Tax rates should be decided by popular agreement to encourage tax competition.
- Tax should be used for shared infrastructure and to help the less fortunate. This gives incentive to help the less fortunate to become more fortunate.

The tax system described above is essentially an Islamic system with some technical aspects mirroring the Swiss tax systems.

Such a tax system would make it nigh on impossible to accumulate and maintain vast fortunes, yet it would encourage economically useful activity.

Most Western tax systems are a form of slavery.

Slavery is a system where a person's work is confiscated to benefit a tiny parasitic elite.

You are a slave and you don't even know it.

Worse, you believe you can free yourself by strengthening this system of enslavement.

As long as we have abusive taxation, tax havens will serve a purpose. Once tax is fair everywhere, tax havens then become redundant.

Anonymous said...

arthur zbygniew,

Further to my rant on tax havens...

You might want to look further into Paul Vallely, the author of the article.

He seems benign enough, but is pushing the fake "received worldview". You know the one: muslims destroyed the World Trade Center, LiveAid was useful, the attack on Libya was even remotely justifiable, the Arab Spring was a genuine uprising not a Western destabilization.

Presumably this is out of pure, rosy-cheeked innocence and ignorance rather than mendacity and malice. Nonetheless, this makes his opinions "not entirely worthwhile" in my eyes.

He's the very personification of the Western liberal "reasonable man": credulous and paved with good intentions.

Marcus said...

Hmm, by the way the media doesn't talk about Libya anymore, you'd think that war was over...

arthur zbygniew said...

In Europe the people are quiet happy to enjoy free or next to free health services, unemployement benefit and free education (except in Britain where free education ends after high school thanks to Tony Bliar)and it comes at a price. If some small company or businessman evades some taxes it is not a big moral case at all for most of us. When billion $ companies such as News International owned by Rupert Murdoch, or General Electric a major US defense contractor pay NO TAXES AT ALL there is a HUGE moral case. I find therefore worth republishing this article of Paul Vallely. About the WTC see: 9/11 please use the comment box at Home for further comments.

arthur zbygniew said...

addendum: if we could borrow money for free from our central banks, stop fuelling and making unjust wars, if drugs were legalized we'd pay less taxes. The injustice in Europe as in the US lies also in the comparatively little amounts the super rich are paying. In France the 40 main companies listed in the CAC 40 stock index pay in taxes almost half of what the average Joe the plumber (Joseph le plombier) has to pay.

 
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