Monday, March 07, 2011

LOVE?

Bette Davis.

What we all want is some kind of bliss or rapture or ecstatic love.

Something divine.

We see a youthful Bette Davis, and we think she looks divine.

But, is it all an illusion?

Forget the seven-year-itch, the breaking point for couples comes after THREE years

"More than two thirds - 67% - of couples say that the habits of their partner that they once considered harmless or endearing turn into major turn-offs by the dreaded three-year mark.

"Common niggles that kill passion by then include lack of sexy underwear, snoring, stray nail clippings and over-exposure to the in-laws."

Bette Davis.

The most memorable holding of hands I can remember involved an orphan about to die in a squalid little hospital.

The most memorable hug I can remember came from a little handicapped girl who had been abandoned by her family.

I am eternally grateful for that holding of hands and for that hug.

Two Minds Meet has an excellent post entitled 'The Many Names for Love'

From this we learn:

The Greeks had four words for 'love'.

Eros - "based on the zeal of the organs for one another."

Pia – the kind of love involved in bringing up children.

Philia – The love one feels for one's friends.

Agape – Here there is a "degree of spiritual awareness" and we find we can love everyone

Zahoro

Zahoro by Lindsaymp. Zahoro is 12 years old and lives on the coast of Tanzania. "Zahoro had only half a sandle and a ripped dirty t-shirt."

Two Minds Meet has a second post on 'love' entitled "Two Become One?"

According to Carl Jung:

Men, within their unconscious, have a divine (feminine) nature (called anima).

A lover "can evoke it out of them."

The man sees his anima, his own divine nature, in the loved one.

Likewise, women have their divine (masculine) nature (called animus).

In Part 3, Two Minds Meet tells us more about Anima and Animus

From this we learn:

Jung believed that the feelings of love we experience are an "experience of our own Divinity."

The lover experiences a hint of their own divine nature when in the company of the loved one.

But "neither lover can perpetually live up to the other's divine expectations."

In time "your lover appears once again as a mere human being... with ... maddening faults."

So, it is the 'divine' that one really loves.


American writer Joseph Campbell advises you to "follow your bliss".

Joseph Campbell wanted to get above, or transcend, the world that most of us experience.

He wanted to tune in to the divine and experience bliss or rapture.

Campbell said: "I don't know whether my consciousness is proper consciousness or not; I don't know whether what I know of my being is my proper being or not; but I do know where my rapture is. "So let me hang on to rapture, and that will bring me both my consciousness and my being...

"If you follow your bliss, you put yourself on a kind of track that has been there all the while, waiting for you, and the life that you ought to be living is the one you are living.

"Wherever you are - if you are following your bliss, you are enjoying that refreshment, that life within you, all the time." (Joseph Campbell - Wikipedia)

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19 comments:

Honk Bonk Man said...

Bette Davis looks very Jewish, specially in that last picture. Holywood creates this idea that life is all beautiful. Two people meet, fall in love, and live together forever without any conflicts. Holywood is an insane fantasy land.

Simple Powerful Love said...

Love is Wanting to be Close.
Falling in Love is wanting to merge.
Sex is designed to Bond humans.
It is the strongest motivational force in life.

Wanting to be Close can be stronger or weaker, physically or in the mind or both. It can be one-sided or reciprocal.

Generational banksters rule using trauma to destroy, and keeping us apart by destroying love and confusing our understanding of it.
They propagate hundreds of definitions obscuring its powerful simplicity. (Jung was a "Jewish" satanist liar playing with women).

The most important things are simple. Comes with evolution.
We are highly social, programmable and programmed beings.
Love is essential to becoming a balanced and healthy individual.
From the start we need to receive love to be able to develop and love too.

Most grow up deprived of love. Parents give children into state care ever earlier. School is designed to force obedience above love when in reality obedience is a secondary tool required to keep safe. People lacking love crave it. TV shows money in a bank account as more dependable then friendships, money as the way to get love. Traumatised people, lacking a loving upbringing, wounded insecure and detached from their own feelings, tend to sadistically traumatise when they can. So parents make sure their children don't get love, the empowering feeling and effects of someone wanting to be close, just for the way i am. So most teenagers give up wanting love and become adults when they understand that the only way they will get love and a mate is by making money. Bought love is fake, so people stay unhappy, making them better slaves because they will always need and work for more to compensate a lack that can really not be satisfied this way. They buy cars and apartments for status to impress and get love. Watch people with hundreds of millions spending their lives wanting and chasing ever more. Because they don't understand that what they really wanted and crave is getting love, falling in love together and seeing the fruit of that love carry it into the next generations.

The truth of what people really want is oppressed within themselves. They know it but are not aware because it is repressed. Realising it is dangerous because it opens a world of pain and because it threatens the achievements made to compensate. The wide-spread will to oppress the truth about what keeps us unhappy and enslaved makes people willingly participate in the coverup of the banksters accelerating crimes leading to the sickening and slaughter of us all.

Use and save the seeds, considering the dominating corruption beware of anyone with any level of success, bond with those whose history you personally know.

Anonymous said...

I always learn something from your politics articles.
This one on love is even better than your normally top notch stuff.

The Pia of the Greeks being a replacement or evolutionary step up from Eros is a powerful notion.
If our culture celebrated and respected it, our families would be much stronger. Instead our rulers attack us with TV's featuring crap like Desperate Housewives and Two and a Half Men.
Promoting irresponsibility, self centered behavior and hedonism as success, the dark messages of our media gradually sink into the public consciousness and become a new reality.


Carl Jung wrote one book 'Memories, Dreams, Reflections that would be the last book I would ever part with.
Learning about Jung and his associations with the Dulles brothers and OSS in WW2 was painful, but I still take much from his books.

Somewhat along these lines an author John Lash tries to carry the torch of Campbell and Jung, and also Carlos Castaneda.
His site metahistory.org is one you might enjoy.

Being awake to our brutal political realities while most around us work hard to stay blissfully ignorant can be frustrating. We all must attempt to wake others up, but that process is often draining. I have been getting energized with the ideas presented at metahistory.

Lots of 'Philia' to you people here.

Anonymous said...

What has Bette Davis to do with all this? Leave her alone. "She looks Jewish" - what a crap. Pls... Even if she was Jewish, whats the point? Get real...

C.

Anonymous said...

This "Love" article is a waste of time, mixing Bette Davis, Jung and other things and the result is a big rant.

I understand and wish to continue said...

Thank you for that post Aangrifan,
remember that old song from the late 70's /early 80's "we live for love"
I believe we all do.
many thanks
A13

Honk Bonk Man said...

Davis is a very Jewish surname, specially in the USA. Maybe not so much in Europe. I have met so many Irish people mixed with Jews. I don't see any beauty in Bette Davis. I think her beauty is very superficial, made in Holywood, land of the plastic surgery and holohoax stories. Jung as Freud are charlatans playing with people's minds. I used to read Jung and Sartre. But their constant questioning of the meaning of their existence and escape of their own realities, caused me to close their books for good.

StefZ said...

I've never really understood the reasoning behind anonymous comments complaining that a blog post is a waste of time

Not enough time obviously

The occasional reflective stream of consciousness is no bad thing imho

And I personally don't give a toss if Bette Davis looks, or is, Jewish either. That doesn't make her any less of an actress FFS

who+dares+wings said...

Petre Tutea was an Minister of Economics in the Romanian Iron Guard government who was thrown into prison after the war. He spent years in Communist dungeons and emerged a saintly and popular Orthodox philosopher. The Romanian Legion of the Archangel Michael believed in self-sacrifice, a kind of love and longing outside the metaphysical purview of pop gurus like Carl Jung and Joseph Cambell. They believed so strongly in the redemptive power of death and autochthonism that they didn't hesitate on occasion to shoot their ideological adversaries down in the street and then turn themselves into the police to face the justice meted out by the courts. In this video a young woman asks Petre Tutea at the end of his life if there is anything he would change if he could turn the clock back and be 18 years old again. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o-0ciKkdF4

Anonymous said...

Why "the Greeks had"? We still have the 4 words for love which u mentioned and 2 or 3 more...

Emeritus

P2P said...

great post. I've heard about anima before, but for some reason not in the same context with love as here... but now I can with certainty say I have seen it with a handful of men. for myself the animus is also very clear.

not sure if I really get the underlying point in following one's bliss, but it might be really close to what I've come to understand in regards to love and freedom. I think what makes most couples brake up after a certain 'year mark' is because they want to tie each others down and wait for the happy ending to transcend themselves to eternal involuntary bliss or something - at least I see this in my fellow men.

on my opinion, love is nothing without freedom, just like freedom is nothing without responsibility. and, of course, these are concepts that cut very deep.

Anonymous said...

Petre Tutea was nothing but another idiot, a religious fanatic and a crappy individual with a very fishy biography. If u want to buy the official crappy info they sell u, be my guest. I hope Tutea rots in hell. I rest my case.

C.

Anonymous said...

"Davis is a very Jewish surname, specially in the USA. Maybe not so much in Europe. I have met so many Irish people mixed with Jews. I don't see any beauty in Bette Davis. I think her beauty is very superficial, made in Holywood, land of the plastic surgery and holohoax stories. Jung as Freud are charlatans playing with people's minds. I used to read Jung and Sartre. But their constant questioning of the meaning of their existence and escape of their own realities, caused me to close their books for good."

U do have a problem, dude. Jewish or not, she was a great actress and this is all that matters. If u dont like her or dont like the fact, fine, ur problem, but stop ranting about it. Hollywood is Hollywood, showbiz is showbiz, what do u want? According to u, probably every artist is Jewish and tries to take over the world. Among others, in case u didnt know, she was famous for her unusual, more natural looks - just like Barbara Stanwick and Kate Hepburn - contrasting to the artificial beauty displayed by most star(lets) back then. And if ure gonna call me Jewish or a Zionist, uve got the wrong person. FYI Im anti all of that and a Holohoax denier.

C.

Anonymous said...

"StefZ said...

I've never really understood the reasoning behind anonymous comments complaining that a blog post is a waste of time".

I said the article is a waste of time, not the blog. Either u have eye sight problems, either smth is wrong with ur head.

C.

StefZ said...

"I said the article is a waste of time, not the blog. Either u have eye sight problems, either smth is wrong with ur head"

where did I talk about the blog? I was writing about the post. The clue's in the bit where I wrote the words 'blog POST'

I wrote it in capitals so that you could see it this time

who+dares+wings said...

"Petre Tutea was nothing but another idiot, a religious fanatic and a crappy individual with a very fishy biography."

Could you post links to information on Petre Tutea in the English language that you think persons who have been misled should examine? Links specific to the life of Petre Tutea and not opinions on the Legionary Movement, please. Thanks.

Honk Bonk Man said...

I have no problems. I think you are creating a problem for yourself. I don’t glorify Jews. I have worked with actors before and I can tell you, they are the most annoying people you will ever deal with. They need a child psychologist to deal with their neuroses. I can say whatever I want about her. I just said that she looks Jewish, and that she has a Jewish surname. I have never said that every artist is Jewish, or are trying to take over the world. Was she a real blonde? I don’t really care if you are Jewish or are defending the Jews.

dublinmick said...

"More than two thirds - 67% - of couples say that the habits of their partner that they once considered harmless or endearing turn into major turn-offs by the dreaded three-year mark.

"Common niggles that kill passion by then include lack of sexy underwear, snoring, stray nail clippings and over-exposure to the in-laws."

Funny post aangirfan. I enjoyed it. I have heard the terms anima thrown around but never bothered to look it up really. You learn something every day I guess.

Jung however was a plagarist however and a very bad one. He read the great books of the day and developed his own spin as if it were his original thinking.

LOL wasn't Barabara Stanwyck Jewish too?

who+dares+wings said...

Anonymous writes:

" I hope Tutea rots in hell. I rest my case.

C."

You rest your case because you don't have one. You've been brainwashed to believe The National Legionary State had something to do with the Holocaust. There was a coup d'etat in January l941 when that government was disbanded. Romania didn't enter the war until June of the same year by which time Petre Tutea was most likely in prison,
having been rounded up with the other
Iron Guardists. The Jewish chip on your shoulder
is showing. You're neither a practicing Christian or a cultural Christian. You're a foul mouthed troll.

 
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