Air Setyawan and Eko Joko Sarjono are suspected of having planned to attack Indonesia's President, Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono.
Reportedly Air and Eko were killed during a raid in Bekasi, near the home of the president.
However, on 10 August 2009, the Jakarta Globe tells us that the families of the two terror suspects cannot confirm their sons' deaths
The families of the two suspected terrorists, Air Setyawan and Eko Joko Sarjono, are not convinced their sons were among those killed during a police raid in Bekasi, their lawyer said on 10 August.
The lawyer for the families of Air and Eko, Muhammad Kurniawan, said that police have not allowed family members to see their bodies or pictures from the coroner’s autopsy.
National Police Chief Gen. Bambang Hendarso Danuri said that Air was a former prisoner who had been charged with involvement in the 2004 Australian Embassy bombing.
However, the lawyer for Air's family said that Air was only detained for about a month.
Then the charges were dropped and Air was released.
Does it sound as if elements of the police and military might be behind the 'terrorism' in Indonesia and that those who get blamed for the 'terrorism' are often simple patsies?
President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono and First Lady Kristiani Herawati visit the location of the 2005 Bali bombingsWhat do we know about the police in Indonesia?
The Jakarta post once claimed that over half the crime in Jakarta was carried out by the police and the military.
According to The Jakarta Post, on 8 August 2009 ( C. Jakarta 'safer', but has its danger areas Each district has its own crime story):
In Jakarta, "Kampung Boncos in Tanah Abang ... is renowned as the place to find putaw (low-grade heroine).
"The quiet and upscale Menteng district also has its own 'red' zone, namely Menteng Trenggulun, where people can find shabu-shabu (crystal methamphetamine) dealers.
"Red areas are usually full of criminals, headed by a boss with 'connections' to high-ranked police officers.
"Criminals feel safer doing business in those areas as their boss can 'fix' any legal problems."
Amnesty International released an 84-page report on Indonesia detailing police brutality. (Corrupt police stigma still strong among Jakarta public.)
In 2007, a UN special rapporteur for torture visited Indonesia and found police used torture as a "routine practice in Jakarta and other metropolitan areas of Java".
In 2005, in Jakarta's Hilton hotel, Adiguna Sutowo, high on alcohol and crystal meth, got angry with a waiter and shot him dead.
Adiguna was given a 7 year jail sentence but rumour has it that he has not had to spend too much time in jail.
The Jakarta Hilton hotel, along with four other Indonesian Hilton Hotels, belongs to the Sutowo family.
General Ibnu Sutowow was the boss of the state owned Pertamina oil company.
Pertamina acquired $14 billion worth of debt in the 70s. But the Sutowow family became very rich.
Indonesia is still run by the military. The president is a former general.
Former militia leader Eurico Guterres, the only Indonesian jailed for the destruction of East Timor that claimed about 1500 lives in 1999, was acquitted by a Jakarta court.
That decision meant that all the men, most of them Indonesian military officers, charged by Indonesian prosecutors over the violence during the 1999 independence referendum have now been acquitted. - Jakarta judges clear ex-militia leader over Timor carnage
Indonesia in former times. (Bestand : Familie Ds Van Dijk Bij Ford)
Melody Kemp, at onlineopinion.com, 10 January 2008, has an utterly brilliant article on Indonesia entitled:
The good, the bad and the hopeful - reflecting on Indonesia
The old town known as Kota (in Jakarta) ... is now a no-go area where violence and drug taking have escalated...
Toll roads still owned by the Soeharto family, are groaning with cars...
People look more stressed than before.
As the cost of living hikes leave more and more poor behind, crime and meaningless jobs multiply alongside each other...
And the rich are richer... We stayed at the very popular Novotel... The hotel is now surrounded by multimillion dollar homes.
Huge mansions bristling with stainless steel three-storey high windows and doubtless, an alarming number of bathrooms.
I wondered hopefully if the owners paid taxes.
For the first time an Indonesian, the Minister for Social Welfare, made the list of Forbes 100 richest men.
He is at the centre of the case of the ongoing destructive mud eruptions in East Java that have made life misery for many Indonesians.
And for which the good Minister for Social Welfare refuses to take any responsibility.
Indonesia’s problem is not poverty but distribution.
And the powers-that-be continue to refuse to acknowledge this - as do aid donors, including Australia.
Policies that favour the rich, such as education fees, are still promulgated by the World Bank, eager it seems to live up to its reputation as an instrument of blind capitalism...
The World Bank, we were told by one of their consultants, had earmarked a US$800 million loan, ready to go.
Apparently no planning guidelines, or projects had been identified, nor guidelines for disbursal, monitoring or evaluation.
It was simply a “give ‘em the loan and saddle ‘em with debt” strategy...
Soeharto, in effect, turned Indonesia into one huge franchising operation from which he and his family profited; and continue to do so.
The recent Bali Climate Carnival was held in Soeharto-owned hotels.
While Sadam killed thousands and was hanged, Soeharto stole from and killed millions, and lives on. Justice is not a notable feature of Indonesia, or of American patronage...
The ABC Asian news services recently trumpeted that Jema’ah Islamiya had a membership of 9,000 ...
What they failed to add was that in a population of 260 million, 9,000 does not represent recruitment success.
Repeatedly Islamic parties do poorly in the elections.
Radical Islam is less popular than Family First.
But that could change.
Officials in the Ministry of Religion are beginning to acknowledge that Indonesia could soon be an Islamic state given current Western inspired wars, impoverishment of Muslim communities, ongoing judicial corruption and mismanagement of community conflicts and misdirected aid...
Islamic schools are free and are used increasingly by the poor in the wake of user-pays education cost rises...
Indonesian’s major complaint to me was that user-pays education excludes the poor ...
Into this come the Muslim carpetbaggers from Malaysia and Saudi Arabia using Syhari’a principles to influence Indonesian children to take up the puritan form that they espouse.
I noticed a greater number of swathed heads and long gowns as well as an increase in the number of tragic threadbare beards...
But the message is the Saudi influence is biting.
The way to combat radical Islam is not by weapons, spies and training police, but by supporting the majority of moderate Muslims who want a good education for their children to open the doors of opportunity for which they don’t have the key.